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Topic: window leaks
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1217
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-09-2004 11:29 PM
   
Hey fokes. i went out and bought well ordered new windshield weatherstripping the old stuff is cracked and leaks like a sive. now im only a 20 year old kid and willing to fix everything but if i crack a window thats original im in trouble. so is there anyway i should attempt or should i just go out and pay for it? 1966 coupe stock. any thoughts will be concidered. Brian [This message has been edited by trashline (edited 01-09-2004).]
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 4768
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 12:22 AM
first thing I would do other than paying a shop to do it,and keep in mind that I have never done this(yet). but harbour freight tools sells a really nice little window removel tool like the pros use for about $10. I'd get one.------------------
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1373
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 02:58 AM
Its not hard but dont do it alone. I placed a wool blanket and cardboard on the hood after i took off the wiper arms. then used a tool that looks like it has piano wire between to handles to break the old seal then lift it out.going on i used soap and a small thin rope to pull it into place Make sure you have the right adheasive to seal as well.Good luck Bruce
P.s there is a place hear called speedy glass that put one in for my neighbor when he broke out my windshield and it cost 35.00 thats cheap call around and get a good rep shop.
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 4768
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 09:43 AM
"then used a tool that looks like it has piano wire between to handles to break the old seal then lift it out."That's the tool they sell at Harbour freight. I watched a guy use one to replace a windsheild and it's a useful tool. ------------------
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1217
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 10:45 AM
I talked to my uncle who modified a 55 chevy... he told me to just go to a shop . hes been working on cars for the past 40 years and he said he hasnt done one windshield. but the one thing about a shop is if they break it they replace the window so. i dont know im gonna look into the piano wire tool and then see whats up. thanks all!
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christang
Gearhead Posts: 232
From: Colliers, WV, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-10-2004 10:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
I talked to my uncle who modified a 55 chevy... he told me to just go to a shop . hes been working on cars for the past 40 years and he said he hasnt done one windshield. but the one thing about a shop is if they break it they replace the window so. i dont know im gonna look into the piano wire tool and then see whats up. thanks all!
Breaking it is ALWAYS something to consider...and some shops still won't pay for it if they do, but will give you an adjustment on a new windshield. I removed mine with the piano wire tool (you can make your own with a guitar string and wooden dowel or broom handle), and when I put it back in I used four of the suction cup tools that you can buy from many of the parts stores, or Eastwoods...INVALUABLE tool in my opinion, and makes the job MUCH SAFER and EASIER to handle glass with!!!
Have two buddies help you hold the windshield on each end with the suction cups, and have someone on the inside too. As stated earlier make sure you have thick blankets and cardboard on the car so you don't scratch it! ... Chris's husband
[This message has been edited by christang (edited 01-10-2004).]
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1217
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 11:44 PM
ok so i get the window out... i think i can do that part. how does it go back in? from looking at the new stripping it seems likeyou should put it on the window first then go around and fold the rubber around the metal. were should the adhiesive go ? window side or car side? and is the process the same for the back?i also looked online at harbor freight tools and couldnt find the tool [This message has been edited by trashline (edited 01-10-2004).]
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 4768
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 11:51 PM
they may not show the tool on line, but i remember seeing it at the local store here. One of the handles holds a razor and the other handle is attached with the wire and is used for pulling the blade through the stripping.------------------
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1217
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-10-2004 11:55 PM
hmm you know what... being a member of the local fire house i think we have one of those on our rescue trucke... nice metal handle with like an l shaped razor with a piece of wire and a wooden handle on that to pull. right?
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1217
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-11-2004 10:51 AM
does anybody have ideas on putting the window in? thanks
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 4768
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 01-11-2004 11:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by trashline:
hmm you know what... being a member of the local fire house i think we have one of those on our rescue trucke... nice metal handle with like an l shaped razor with a piece of wire and a wooden handle on that to pull. right?
That sure sounds like the tool. I watched a guy replace a windsheild in a Ranger with one of those. The pull handle on the cable allows you the best pull angle because of the windsheild curve.
The only thing I remember about install, and this may not even apply here, is to make sure you have at least one window open some when you close the doors because of the pressure.(this advice was given for a ranger, smaller area and tighter fit) ------------------
http://webpages.charter.net/adragon8u/mystang [This message has been edited by adragon8u (edited 01-11-2004).]
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1373
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 01-11-2004 05:46 PM
read my reply on top it says going on i used! that will tell you. I speed read myself all the time and i always over look something. Bruce
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 821
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-12-2004 08:06 PM
Brian, I tried to reply the other night and my connection went flakey. You can also remove the windshield by cutting around it with a razor knife, pulling the weatherstripping away until you can see the outer edge of the glass all the way around. Then you carefully push the windshield out, with help from a couple of friends. As N266FORDS stated you reinstall the window by putting the new weatherstrip on the glass then put a small piece of rope in the groove. Put the window in position and get the gasket started over the lip where the 2 ends of the rope come out, then you slowly pull the rope out and it pulls the rubber inside of the lip. It might take a couple of tries to get it to work, but it is realy not that hard. I have never used any sealant on the gaskets, just make sure the lip is clean before you install the window. ------------------
Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V engineless at the time!
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
Mustangs and More Member #23
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1217
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-12-2004 11:07 PM
ok so i put the stripping around the window, i got that now the rope is in the gasket part that is going onto the body and when you pull it it pulls the stripping onto the body? right ok now my car is a daily driver so do you still think i shouldnt put sealent on the gasket?
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 821
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-13-2004 08:54 PM
Brian, Bruce mentions in his post to use the right adheasive to seal as well, I am not sure what this adheasive is, but when I put the rear window in my 69(same type of gasket) I did not use any sealant or adheasive and have never had any leaks. I looked in Virgina Mustangs on-line catalog and see a 3M Bedding & Glasing Compound listed to seal the gaskets. Maybe I have just been lucky to not have any leaks. ------------------
Ronnie
69 mach1 351W-4V engineless at the time!
70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker"
Mustangs and More Member #23
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