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Topic: looking for simple power help?
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trashline
Gearhead Posts: 1496
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-05-2004 12:58 AM
   
hey guys whats up.im just looking for a little bit more power im running a stock 200ci in a 66 coupe. what can i do for cheap low cost power? besides rebuilds and cuttng the head and what not? the motor also has a sticky lifter is it possible to just replace the lifters without having to do to much? my plan is to keep the stock motor for restoration purposes. maybe like a new coil i dont no. i up graded from the 7mm wire to the 8mm. i dont want to buy a hotter coil bc i dont know to much about that stuff so let me know thanks
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-05-2004 05:48 PM
A set of split headers (3 and 3 Clifford is just one brand) and dual exhaust system will do wonders. Nice small glass pack or mini turbo type mufflers will give you a mellow Jaguar XK-E sound too. Not offensive at all.
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Alex Denysenko
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65ponycar
Gearhead Posts: 805
From: Dayton, OH
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 01-05-2004 07:27 PM
Alex,
Not to hijack the post to only exhaust, but what size pipes do you recomend if going this route?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-06-2004 12:30 AM
1 3/4 to 1/78 max on a stock (or near) six cylinder.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Wicked-Toy
Gearhead Posts: 221
From: Richmond, VA USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-06-2004 09:16 AM
I have the dual outlet header from Clifford and a set of turbo mufflers on my son's 68. We went with 2" pipes all the way back. Very nice sound and a real seat of the pants increase in power. You will need to get the port divider in order to make the header work. It is a pain to to get the fit right but its worth the effort.------------------
Scott Akom
65 Coupe (Modified)
68 Coupe (Son's)
2000 GT Conv. (Wifes)
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Gearhead Posts: 1496
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-07-2004 12:32 PM
ok i have a brand new exhaust as of august this past summer. i upgraded from the 1 3/4 to 2 inch i was thinking of buying just the single outlet header and just get the pipe streched to fit the 2 1/4 header outlet size. another problem im having is that the holes were the manifold bold into on the head are stripped out from the previous owner. i need to drill and tap them before the header goes on.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-07-2004 03:02 PM
You should re-tap and or heli coil the stripped hols for sure.
Why waste your time on the single outlet header?
Is your new exhaust a single with the transverse muffler? If so, just right it off, and go with the dual collector header and true dual exhast. You will be much happier with the performance, look, and sound overall. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Gearhead Posts: 1496
From: Levittown, Pa
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted 01-07-2004 03:48 PM
yes my plan was the heli coil the stripped out holes. the reason for the single exhaust is to save money. its just two inch pipe with a 24 inch glass pac. it sounds beautiful when the exhaust manifold is on there tight. plus if i get the dual outlet header then that exhaust is junk bc they say to use 1 3/4 pipe instead of two. its just the most cost effective way is what im looking at. from what i was told i could get a 40 % hp gain just from the header is that true? also the motor has a sticky lifter can i just replace the lifters without anything else?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 26513
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-07-2004 04:10 PM
If it is not a transverse muffler, you can just hang another 2 inch pipe and muffler on the other side.
It won't hurt anything, especially if you are using a glass pack.------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
First SS/MA in the TENS!
IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1691
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 01-07-2004 08:27 PM
Theres a bunch of different things you can do to "hop up" your lil inline. You can go flat top pistons out of a 2.3l Ford Tempo. That should give you a bit in compression boost since they're flattops instead of factory dished. Also bumping it up to a 2 barrel carb would add a bit, you could fab up your own adapter, or purchase one from somewhere. I know you said you wanted to keep the stock engine for restoration purposes, but I guess it depends on how far your going to take that. If not that far, then there are some great aussie heads out there for the 200 that will give you signifigant power increases. Theres a book called the Falcon Performance Handbook which will supply you with more information than you could ever wish for about your six.
Best of luck to you!
EDIT: Also swapping to a Duraspark II ignition is a cheap upgrade and relatively simple upgrade.
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Luke
'65 coupe 5.0 HO(F-cam, 1.7 Rollers, RPM Intake, Full Length Headers) T-5
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