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Topic: Sideloader tranny - whats it worth ?
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65darkhorse
Gearhead Posts: 700
From: Je suis a Paris
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 12-17-2003 02:46 PM
   
I have the disassembled (& tanked) 4 spd sideloader that came out of my '65. Would need a TOTAL rebuild, gears are completely shot. I'm surprised I managed to drive the car around the block a few times.Can't post any part numbers (but can when I am home in 2 days). Its just taking up space in the garage, and I could use some cash, so I thought I'd throw it up on ebay. Any idea of what its worth ? Thanks guys !  ------------------
'65 GT 302 5 spd
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 248
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 12-17-2003 05:40 PM
I don't have a real current pulse on the market, but it seems there is still a market for the old T-10's, although replacement parts are becoming harder to find. You are basically selling it as a rebuildable core... Yours would probably be worth something to someone, perhaps bringing $50 to $200 (or more, if including the shifter and shift rods), depending what is included, how your ad is worded, and who is bidding.  I have seen good T-10's go for anywhere from $150 to $750  , and it really help bring more money to have the complete shift mechanism for it, as these seem VERY hard to replace with the correct ones. Here is a current T10 on that auction site... 2448227600 , and it needs at least a partial rebuild.
Daniel
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John Z
Gearhead Posts: 336
From: Morgantown, WV
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 12-19-2003 09:32 AM
A few years ago I paid $200 for one with shifter. Warrenty from seller - "The transmission was driven to the wreck." However, it did work fine and was a direct bolt in replacement for the 3 speed.
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 3936
From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 12-19-2003 11:31 AM
T-10's do have more collector value than they do performance value. I'm currently running a T-10, NO slicks until I replace it with a trans that won't disassemble itself under those loads. It's still stronger than the late model 5 speed conversions that seem to be the hot ticket these days.Early 4 speeds are becomming quite rare... don't give it away ------------------
1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 248
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 12-19-2003 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
T-10's do have more collector value than they do performance value. I'm currently running a T-10, NO slicks until I replace it with a trans that won't disassemble itself under those loads. It's still stronger than the late model 5 speed conversions that seem to be the hot ticket these days.Early 4 speeds are becomming quite rare... don't give it away
I have a great fondness for the early 4spds.
My uncle used to have an early 60's Merc Maurauder with a 406 (with manual secondaries) and a T-10, so I know they can handle "some" HP. They also used them in a lot of early 60's GM "performance" cars, from what I understand. Not nearly as strong as a toploader (then again, what is???), but still a solid tranny.
Daniel
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Ryan Wilke
Gearhead Posts: 1644
From: Stanton, Michigan 49707
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 12-19-2003 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by BornInAFord:
... so I know they can handle "some" HP. They also used them in a lot of early 60's GM "performance" cars.....
Dan,
Just remember - regardless of the HP those early mills made, when we talk about the cars of that time, their weak link in the total package was the tires. If you are spinning the tires, there is less torque/stress put on the rearend, U-joints, clutch, transmission, etc. If you were to put a pair of today's sticky tires on a well-tuned (but stock) big-block car of yesterday, I'd say we'd see many more bent, broken & twisted parts in those old rides!!! Ryan
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 248
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 12-20-2003 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Ryan Wilke:
Dan,
Just remember - regardless of the HP those early mills made, when we talk about the cars of that time, their weak link in the total package was the tires. Ryan
Sad, but true. The T-10s were never intended to be racing transmission. My point was that they're usually strong enough for the street, though. It's not just sticky tires either-- Clutches, rear-ends are all beefier than ever. Something has got to give. This is why the T-5s have a reputation for broken gears, too. They were intended to run stock with maybe a bit of spirited driving. Nowadays we take the 5.0L down to the track where power shifts, missed shifts, and shift over-travel put much more stress on them than was ever engineered for them. I'm always surprised people complain about their tranny's longevity with that abuse.  At least toploaders (which were engineered for the torquey FE's) were over-engineered for the Windsor (except if you have a 427 stroker), so cause little worries at the track. Still, the T-10 in my 66 A-code has lasted well over 400K with regular maintainance. I expect a lot more miles out of it as it doesn't grind and shifts freely and smoothly. Certainly respectable for any tranny! And one reason there is still a market for T-10s. And a reason there isn't a market for wooden-geared Dagenhams. Daniel
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65darkhorse
Gearhead Posts: 700
From: Je suis a Paris
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 12-22-2003 11:21 PM
Thanks for the info guys ! I think it'll just sit in the garage until mid 2004 and I'm back in the good ole US of A. ------------------
'65 GT 302 5 spd
"Trust your instinct to the end, though you can render no reason." R.W. Emerson
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
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