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65ponycar
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From: Dayton, OH
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posted 12-14-2003 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65ponycar   Click Here to Email 65ponycar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi-
Has anyone out there rebuilt their own 3rd member? How hard is it? I heard you need special tools, can anyone make me a list? Or should I try and find a shop to install my new gears and bearings...
The problem I have with taking it somewhere is the price quoted on labor, lowest estimate was over $200! The guy that I usually take my car to have major repairs/overhauls done on is having health problems so that is out as he won't be back to work until springtime when it warms up again. Any advice welcomed! TIA, Dan

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Fastymz
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posted 12-14-2003 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dan from what I've been told. It's better just to let a shop do it. The price is about the same if not alittle more around here. I looked into to doing it myself too. But I don't have enough experince to feel comfortable to do it myself.

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Riley
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posted 12-17-2003 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Riley   Click Here to Email Riley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin is a professional mechanic. He said that it is very time consuming to rebuild a 3rd member unless you do it often. If you have all of the tools, guages and books, it will take you a ton of time. Pay the $200 and get it done right (and have somebody to sue if it is wrong).

It is fairly simple to remove and install the 3rd member and bearings in the housing.

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460-67Stang
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posted 12-19-2003 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 460-67Stang   Click Here to Email 460-67Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rebuilding a 3rd member is straight forward, but not for the "mechanical-faint-of-heart". A Ford manual (like my '67 Stang manual) explains the process surprisingly well, but the process does require a dial guage and some careful work. I did mine and it turned out great, but only after about 8 hours work (really). I had a fit trying to get everyhting lined up just right. It's simple in concept, but it's one of those processes that requires you to hold your tounge just right! ;D Experience doing the job helps a lot in this case.

If you're not 100% confident in your mechanical ability I'd suggest you have it done. You should be able to find someone to do it for $100 to $150 labor. If you need a rebuild kit let me know...I have Ratech parts at cost since I do the web work for them (www.ratechmfg.com).

Brian

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-19-2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 460-67Stang:

If you're not 100% confident in your mechanical ability I'd suggest you have it done.

Agreed 100%. Repeating what others have already said, it does require some precision measuring instruments not likely to be found in many toolboxes. I build my own, but the first one I did (I was 17 or 18 years old, never mind how old I am now ) I wound up having to do three times before I got it right (then again, it was a chebby ). The money you'd spend in tools would pay the labor to have it professionally assembled and set up, and it'll be spot-on

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Pierre
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posted 12-19-2003 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
Agreed 100%. Repeating what others have already said, it does require some precision measuring instruments not likely to be found in many toolboxes. I build my own, but the first one I did (I was 17 or 18 years old, never mind how old I am now ) I wound up having to do three times before I got it right (then again, it was a chebby ). The money you'd spend in tools would pay the labor to have it professionally assembled and set up, and it'll be spot-on




Todd, could you recommend a site or book that describes the procedure in details (& tools required) as I am thinking of moving from 3.5 to 3.7 or 3.89 behind the T5

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-19-2003 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NOT a first time project for the novice!
Measurements will only get you half way there.
No book on earth can teach you "feel".

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-19-2003 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Pierre, Richmond Gear has a great video on installation procedures, I think it's about $15 USD. I don't know of a specific website that has a tutorial, but I'm sure there's one out there somewhere

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-19-2003 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But like Alex said... no book, video, or website can teach the 'feel'. I guess that comes from screwing up several before you get one right

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BLUE
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posted 12-19-2003 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BLUE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.richmondgear.com/01instructions.html

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Pierre
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From: Near Paris, France
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posted 12-20-2003 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
NOT a first time project for the novice!
Measurements will only get you half way there.
No book on earth can teach you "feel".



Guess it's like with women ?!!.... Then I may take a chance

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