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Pierre
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From: Near Paris, France
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posted 12-03-2003 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre        Reply w/Quote
On their site, Compcam describs the 282S as:

"SOLID-Magnum Muscle Camshaft for, 289cu.in. 1965-68, Factory 271 H.P. "

Was the original 289HP, using that steep of a cam ??

Pierre
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From: Near Paris, France
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posted 12-03-2003 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre        Reply w/Quote
I looked a little more into it and I found that Compcam makes a "Nostalgia" serie cam that is supposed to be a replica of the 271HP 289:
Part # 31-110-3 (C30ZS grind)
[email protected] is 228/227
Lift: .478/.475
Lobe sep angle: 114��BR>Power band: 2200-6200 RPM
Solid cam of course

I can't help wondering why Ford put such a cam with the breathing limitations of the 289 heads !!

JCQuinn@work
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From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001

posted 12-03-2003 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JCQuinn@work        Reply w/Quote
Back when they were new cars the 271HP cars were pretty hot. The cam and the larger carburetor were a well balanced engine for a street car. When you started the car the cam left no doubt that it was a performance option.

The heads on those engines had the same ports and valves as any of the 289 heads. That is after they put in the larger valves during the 65 run.

Putting a 600 CFM carb and that cam into a 289 results in a fun to drive car. I would recommend converting the studs to the screw in type though.

John

n2oMike
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From: Spencer, WV
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posted 12-03-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike        Reply w/Quote
Comp sells an 'original' HiPo cam, as well as a 'modern equivalent' that works better in the same rpm range... but makes more power.

The 282S is their modern equivalent of the old hipo cam.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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blackford
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From: Corona, Ca
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posted 12-20-2004 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackford        Reply w/Quote
I can't vouch for how the 282S compares to a HP 289 cam, but in my 331, it produces peak HP at 6300 and peak torque at 3700. I like the cam and it sounds agressive at idle. I'm fairly certian that cobraautomotive.com uses it in their street 375HP 289 engines.

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'65 "Black" ford FB, 331 with H beam 289 rods, KB322s, fully prepped 351w heads, 282S cam, C-4, 3.5 9" posi. Many Suspension and steering mods. 4.5 year restomod project completed in May '04. 308 RWHP and 307 RWTQ thru 2.5" dual exhaust and auto trans (later found that the throttle wasn't opening completely so it may be 310+ RWHP now)

Moneymaker
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posted 12-20-2004 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
We stock both the 282S and the 31-110-3 Hipo replacement cams.
The 282S is much more aggressive thant he Hipo and considerably noisier.

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FoMoGo
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From: Motor City USA
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posted 12-20-2004 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FoMoGo        Reply w/Quote
I have the CompCam's C3OZS original 289 HP cam in my 1965 'K'-Code Fastback & I like it. You can feel it come to life after about 3500 RPM. Not the fastest car but I like the sound of those solid lifters plus it's fun to drive. The biggest draw back of that engine is the heads. Anybody running the original cam with better heads?

Moneymaker
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posted 12-20-2004 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FoMoGo:
I have the CompCam's C3OZS original 289 HP cam in my 1965 'K'-Code Fastback & I like it. You can feel it come to life after about 3500 RPM. Not the fastest car but I like the sound of those solid lifters plus it's fun to drive. The biggest draw back of that engine is the heads. Anybody running the original cam with better heads?

I did years ago.
GT-40 valve upgrade and port job.
Didn't make much difference. New springs made it happy at 7000 RPM, but only ran about a tenth quicker.
Ford knew what they were doing with the Hipo.
When I up graded to the C7FE camshaft, C90X intake, and a Cobra Tri-Power, then it really came to life.
Later I swapped out the Tri-Power for a C90X intake and 4118 725 single Holley and it was faster yet.

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Alex Denysenko
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mustangs68
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posted 12-20-2004 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68        Reply w/Quote
I have the 270H

68 Coop
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From: Mesquite, NV. 89027
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posted 12-20-2004 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 Coop        Reply w/Quote
What would be the best way to go as far as heads when you do go a bigger cam??? In other words, can I build my stock heads as strong or powerful as aftermarket ones??? I know as soon as it starts getting fast, I'll want more, so I'm thinking (in the long run) here. Hope this is clear, and I hope you don't mind either Pierre. Thanks for any responses.

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William
I'm too busy workin', to get rich.

68 Coupe
Stock 289
Edelbrock 600/RPM Intake
Ignitor/Flamethrower
Thorley's with Cherry Bomb's
C4
2.79's out back(for now)
15"x7" AR ASTRO's(needin' new tires)
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FoMoGo
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From: Motor City USA
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posted 12-21-2004 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FoMoGo        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Ford knew what they were doing with the Hipo.

What do you suggest to improve the 289HP?
C7FE is that a 351C cam?

Moneymaker
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posted 12-21-2004 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker        Reply w/Quote
C7FE-6250-A was the infamous GT-40 solid lifter camshaft.
It was the SBF mainstay for over ten years.

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Alex Denysenko
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NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
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IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28

The Barry of BarrysGrrl

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Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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FoMoGo
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From: Motor City USA
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posted 12-21-2004 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FoMoGo        Reply w/Quote
Yeah, the "LeMans" cam
Memory starting to fade, can't remember all those part numbers

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