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indyphil
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posted 11-17-2003 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dumb question but...
I bought a new hood to cowl seal from NPD for the 68 coupe. It came coiled up in a bag and now that I opened it its not really wanting to stay straight. I fear if I put it on like this it will curl up at the corners and look bad.

Is there a way to straighten out the rubber so it lays right? also it needs little holes in it for the clips to go in, do I use a drill in the rubber or cut little slits with a knife?

Never done this kind of restoration before and was hoping to tap into the vast experience with such matters in here.

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indyphil
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posted 11-17-2003 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by the way, im just as interested in performance and optimum cooling as I am a perfect restoration. if any of you out there think that i shouldnt put a seal back on the car after removing the original rotten one please speak up. Im not really sure what the purpose of the cowl seal to the hood is, but it strikes me I might be better off without one to help with airflow?

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Fastback68
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posted 11-17-2003 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The strip will straighten up OK once you've had a closed hood sitting on it a while. You don't need to take a drill to make holes in that thing. Phil, you're an engineer A little knife will do fine.. I think I just pushed the clips through, with a bit of effort.
I believe the purpose of the strip is to eliminate a possible source of metal-to-metal vibration, although I haven't noticed any difference since installing mine. It also helps to keep the windshield washer hose hidden.
BTW, did you get a strange little fitting with yours that doesn't look like it belongs anywhere? I did. Got mine from NPD too. And that part's not in my Osborn's manual either.
If you're really into cooling, I used to play with the idea of cutting a couple of holes between the fire wall and the cowl so air could flow straight from the engine bay and out the cowl vents. I never did it, but it seems like a good idea.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-18-2003 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let it sit in the sun for a while.

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71RESTO
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posted 11-18-2003 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 71RESTO   Click Here to Email 71RESTO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Phil,
I've used an icepick to make a hole for the clip, then just push the tab end up into the seal. It works great and I've done this on several cowl seals.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-18-2003 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The seal was put there to keep water, snow , and other elements out of the engine bay.
I wish that the sanctioning bodies would let us remove ours so we could get a little more air in under the hood.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-18-2003 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
The seal was put there to keep water, snow , and other elements out of the engine bay.

Also to keep engine fumes from being sucked into the cowl, which is the air plenum for the vent system.

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indyphil
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posted 11-18-2003 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve you make a great point.
there is a potential risk especially if you run open breathers (which i dont - i have a PV system)

Cowl vent cold air induction is a common sleeper trick I assume, but I like having air pumped into the footwells on hot days since I dont have AC.

I will go ahead and install it and see what happens. If it looks bad I will take a photo and come crying back on here for more help!

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460-67Stang
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posted 11-23-2003 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 460-67Stang   Click Here to Email 460-67Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're concerned about optimal cooling you might consider installing the rubber radiator support seal that came on all 6 cylinder cars. It helps divert air through the radiator rather than over the top of the radiator support.

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Fastback68
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posted 11-24-2003 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious about that radiator support seal. Am I right in thinking it was on all '67 cars but was dropped in '68?
I had assumed it was dropped because it had no effect, but maybe it was just a cost-saving.

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pmhvps
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posted 11-24-2003 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pmhvps   Click Here to Email pmhvps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it was not dropped in 68. My I6 coupe has it. Just went out to look and the 68 fastback has it too.

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Pierre
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posted 11-24-2003 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Also to keep engine fumes from being sucked into the cowl, which is the air plenum for the vent system.

Yes, great point ! I was just wondering recently what I could do keep that smell away.

Hey, Phil, if that doesn't work for you I'll by it !

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