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indyphil Gearhead Posts: 2454 From: Senoia, G.A. USA Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-17-2003 08:43 PM
Dumb question but... I bought a new hood to cowl seal from NPD for the 68 coupe. It came coiled up in a bag and now that I opened it its not really wanting to stay straight. I fear if I put it on like this it will curl up at the corners and look bad.Is there a way to straighten out the rubber so it lays right? also it needs little holes in it for the clips to go in, do I use a drill in the rubber or cut little slits with a knife? Never done this kind of restoration before and was hoping to tap into the vast experience with such matters in here. ------------------ '68 coupe 289 C code 66 heads, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm
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indyphil Gearhead Posts: 2454 From: Senoia, G.A. USA Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-17-2003 08:45 PM
by the way, im just as interested in performance and optimum cooling as I am a perfect restoration. if any of you out there think that i shouldnt put a seal back on the car after removing the original rotten one please speak up. Im not really sure what the purpose of the cowl seal to the hood is, but it strikes me I might be better off without one to help with airflow?------------------ '68 coupe 289 C code 66 heads, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm
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Fastback68 Gearhead Posts: 3170 From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines Registered: Jul 99
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posted 11-17-2003 11:44 PM
The strip will straighten up OK once you've had a closed hood sitting on it a while. You don't need to take a drill to make holes in that thing. Phil, you're an engineer A little knife will do fine.. I think I just pushed the clips through, with a bit of effort. I believe the purpose of the strip is to eliminate a possible source of metal-to-metal vibration, although I haven't noticed any difference since installing mine. It also helps to keep the windshield washer hose hidden. BTW, did you get a strange little fitting with yours that doesn't look like it belongs anywhere? I did. Got mine from NPD too. And that part's not in my Osborn's manual either. If you're really into cooling, I used to play with the idea of cutting a couple of holes between the fire wall and the cowl so air could flow straight from the engine bay and out the cowl vents. I never did it, but it seems like a good idea.
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 43394 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 11-18-2003 08:14 AM
Let it sit in the sun for a while.------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
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71RESTO Gearhead Posts: 1320 From: Oregon, USA Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 11-18-2003 10:22 AM
Hey Phil, I've used an icepick to make a hole for the clip, then just push the tab end up into the seal. It works great and I've done this on several cowl seals.------------------ Duane 71 Fastback (his) under resto (351C-4V C6 auto) 73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed) 66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's) 89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's) M & M Member #730
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 26242 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 11-18-2003 10:57 AM
The seal was put there to keep water, snow , and other elements out of the engine bay. I wish that the sanctioning bodies would let us remove ours so we could get a little more air in under the hood. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA & SS/MA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 First SS/MA in the TENS! IHRA division 5 Superstock Champion Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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SteveLaRiviere Administrator Posts: 43394 From: Saco, Maine Registered: May 99
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posted 11-18-2003 11:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moneymaker: The seal was put there to keep water, snow , and other elements out of the engine bay.
Also to keep engine fumes from being sucked into the cowl, which is the air plenum for the vent system. ------------------ '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '70 Mustang Convertible - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
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indyphil Gearhead Posts: 2454 From: Senoia, G.A. USA Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-18-2003 03:33 PM
Steve you make a great point. there is a potential risk especially if you run open breathers (which i dont - i have a PV system)Cowl vent cold air induction is a common sleeper trick I assume, but I like having air pumped into the footwells on hot days since I dont have AC. I will go ahead and install it and see what happens. If it looks bad I will take a photo and come crying back on here for more help! ------------------ '68 coupe 289 C code 66 heads, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm
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460-67Stang Gearhead Posts: 289 From: Southern Ohio, USA Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-23-2003 11:13 PM
If you're concerned about optimal cooling you might consider installing the rubber radiator support seal that came on all 6 cylinder cars. It helps divert air through the radiator rather than over the top of the radiator support.Brian
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Fastback68 Gearhead Posts: 3170 From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines Registered: Jul 99
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posted 11-24-2003 12:43 AM
I'm curious about that radiator support seal. Am I right in thinking it was on all '67 cars but was dropped in '68? I had assumed it was dropped because it had no effect, but maybe it was just a cost-saving.
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pmhvps Gearhead Posts: 454 From: Lowville,Ontario,Canada Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 11-24-2003 07:27 AM
No, it was not dropped in 68. My I6 coupe has it. Just went out to look and the 68 fastback has it too.[This message has been edited by pmhvps (edited 11-24-2003).]
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Pierre Gearhead Posts: 557 From: Near Paris, France Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 11-24-2003 11:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere: Also to keep engine fumes from being sucked into the cowl, which is the air plenum for the vent system.
Yes, great point ! I was just wondering recently what I could do keep that smell away. Hey, Phil, if that doesn't work for you I'll by it !
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