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68 S-code GT
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posted 11-06-2003 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
Would you use a performer or a torker 2 with a Comp Magnum 270H? The catalog says 1800-5800 RPMs and I plan on using it with mildly ported 69 351W heads. I��m thinking of the performer for a warm street engine.

Fastymz
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From: Reno Nv M&M #1240
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posted 11-07-2003 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz        Reply w/Quote
I'd use the RPM intake I think it's range is 1500-6000rpm.

lonewolf
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posted 11-07-2003 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf        Reply w/Quote
I concur with the Performer RPM, but would get the get the Air Gap variety. However if you have a regular Performer and a regular Torker II, I would prefer the Torker 2. What kind of compression and tranny are you running?

lonewolf

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Lonewolf
1968 Coupe in Pieces

68 S-code GT
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posted 11-07-2003 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
I only mention the Performer and the Torker 2 because that is what I have lying around and I figured that I could use one of them to save a little $.

indyphil
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posted 11-07-2003 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil        Reply w/Quote
When you say performer, you mean plain Performer not RPM correct?

I guess I would say depends on the rest of the combo. You said Mild ported 351W heads, but thats on the 302 not a 351? I would still go with the dual plane performer manifold but maybe you want to open the manifold up a little by gasket matching it to the heads. Or just save up for a Performer RPM intake, you can probably find them on EBay cheap.

It wont flow as big or make as much Max horsepower but if your aim was a warm street engine then building around the torkerII manifold might leave it a little less street friendly. What gears are you running in the rear end?

I find on the street, that idle-4000RPM is really important to me. My car is almost a daily driver type.

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'68 coupe 289 C code
66 heads, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm

68 S-code GT
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posted 11-07-2003 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indyphil:
When you say performer, you mean plain Performer not RPM correct?

Yep, the basic Performer! I can get a 270H kit cheap from a friend that bought it and never used it. I figured that it would be a little too much for the Performer but it��s a low budget motor to use until I build a 351W stroker. I have 3.00 right now but plan on 3.70 or 3.89 latter. Maybe I should just get a 280H and use the Torker along with some port matching.

indyphil
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posted 11-07-2003 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil        Reply w/Quote
The 280H and torker wont work very well on a 302 unless you have headers, higher stall converter (or manual tranny) and low rear gears. Plus "mild" 351W heads might not get the best out of that combo. I would stay with the 270H still and the performer for now, then get the gears and start from there. The RPM intake is not expensive, there are 2 on Ebay for under a hundred bucks right now.

Im staying mild at first and working up, I have so many friends who put to big of a cam or intake in without the other mods and were very dissapointed.

for reference the RPM maniold works really well with the 270H and with headers the popular opinion is that it makes a really nice street motor. Mild 351W heads are a great match to those parts.

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'68 coupe 289 C code
66 heads, edel 600cfm carb, performer intake, dual exhaust http://www.geocities.com/ottouk_77/68mustang.htm

lonewolf
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posted 11-07-2003 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lonewolf        Reply w/Quote
Indyphil is right on the money. On an otherwise stock 302, the 280H and the torker won't work that well. In my earlier post, I assumed the motor was built to the cam. Not to mention lack of proper rear gears and headers. I don't know that I would go with any more cam than the 270H and would definitely run with Performer there. With that build, I would lean more toward the 268H and the Performer.

When you go forth, keep in mind the greater the duration, generally the less street manners the engine has. In the 351C that will most likely go back into my 68, it is running an Erson HighFlow II and a Weiand Xcellerator. It has no street manners. If you want the whole buildout of the motor and car, let me know.

Lonewolf

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Lonewolf
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n2oMike
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posted 11-07-2003 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for n2oMike        Reply w/Quote
Spend the money for a modern Performer RPM or Air Gap intake. The regular performer is a 'cork', and the Torker II is a complete 'dud'.

I've used both. The performer is fine for a stock engine, but the Torker II was so horrible, I GAVE it away and wouldn't even take any money for it. TRUE STORY.

Good Luck!

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Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
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68 S-code GT
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posted 11-08-2003 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
Well it��s not exactly a stock 302 as it has about 10 to 1 compression, ARP rod bolts, a pair of Blackjack long tube headers, Holley 600, MSD ignition and 351W heads that had the ports cleaned up and smoothed out. I later plan on installing a T5 and taller gears but I just have to find the right parts cars. All this is for my coupe that currently has a 66 289 in it.

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Ed S.

68 S-code FB GT 4spd(now C6)/3.25 PS PDB
68 J-code(now 289) Cp Sprint"B" C4/3L00-9" PDB PS AC
99 F150 XLT Ext/cab, 4X4, 5.4L, 3L55
03 Winstar Limited with the works! (Wife's car)

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N266fords
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posted 11-08-2003 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords        Reply w/Quote
Sell them both and buy and rpm air gap intake just my .02 Bruce

Mooney
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posted 11-08-2003 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mooney        Reply w/Quote
I just bought the RPM performer from Mustangs Unlimited for 159, but I was watching this one e-bay until i bought mine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36474&item=2440967167
Good Luck!

68 S-code GT
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posted 11-09-2003 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT        Reply w/Quote
Maybe I should just sell all of my 302 stuff and start buying the 393W stuff.

N266fords
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posted 11-09-2003 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
Maybe I should just sell all of my 302 stuff and start buying the 393W stuff.

Now you talking sensible.Bruce

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