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Von
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From: Jay, OK
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posted 10-20-2003 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Von   Click Here to Email Von     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gonna put front and rear manual discs on my 70 Stang. Putting granada discs on the front and probably will put GM metric calipers on the back. Two questions. First what master cylinder will work with this application? Will a master for a 4 disc equipped versailles work? Also, will the stock granada prop valve work or do I need to add an aftermarket dial type prop valve? Further,with the aftermarket dial type, can you do away with the factory block and add a tee for the fronts, and add the dial type prop for the rears and dial in the amount of braking desired? Trying to get all of this straight in my head.

Thanks for the help,

Von

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PonyDoc
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From: Ft. Lauderdale
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posted 10-29-2003 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PonyDoc   Click Here to Email PonyDoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Use the 74 Maverick w/ disc brakes.

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senzstang
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From: perry, oh, usa
Registered: May 2002

posted 10-30-2003 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for senzstang   Click Here to Email senzstang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used the MC that Von suggested and the Granada prop. valve with no problems.

Phil

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Big D
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From: WELLS, NEVADA USA
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posted 10-30-2003 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big D   Click Here to Email Big D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am going to try to adapt a MC off a Older Thunderbird Turbo Coupe on to my 66.. They are Aluminum,look really clean,, and have an adjustable rod..

Don

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HHStang
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From: SC, USA
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posted 10-31-2003 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm installing my rear discs tomorrow on my 67 and been told the 70 Mustang disc/drum master will "hydro-dynamically" power my dual discs. I will put a slit between the bowls to allow fluid drops as disc pads wear. If this turns out not to work, I've been told the 87 LM Mark VII has a proper disc/disc master. Stay tuned.

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1997 Cobra vert Vortech
2003 F150 4x4 Crew

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460-67Stang
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From: Southern Ohio, USA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 11-09-2003 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 460-67Stang   Click Here to Email 460-67Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Versailles MC will work, but you may need to exert a tad more pedal pressure without the booster it was designed for. You really need a MC with a slightly smaller bore if you're going manual. This will give you more pressure for the same pedal input. Of course the smaller bore will require a longer stroke in order to move the required amount of fluid.

I would think the Mark VII MC would be a good possibility as well, but then again it was also spec'd for a power setup. I'd like to see the bore and stroke for both of these MC's.

I'm running 4 wheel power disc and am using a '96 Windstar MC (Yes, a Windstar). It has the exact bore and stroke dimemsions I needed AND had it's ports on the left side (opposite motor) which was a requirement for me. You can see pics of it at my web site, www.472ci-67mustang.com .

I'd stay away from any MC built for drum brakes in the rear. They won't move enough fluid for disc calipers, especially when the pads wear and the caliper piston has moved towards the rotor creating larger volume to be filled with fluid.

The Granada prop valve should do just fine as Phil said.

I have an aluminum Versailles MC polished to a show shine if your interested in it.

Brian

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jkilroy
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From: Vicksburg, MS
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posted 11-10-2003 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy   Click Here to Email jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A late 80's Lincoln master cylinder will work and as a plus it is aluminum, saving you 10 or so pounds in the process.

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Jay Kilroy
68' Fastback GT 390
"No such thing as a cam thats too big"

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