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Topic: drum brake help
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65ponycar
Gearhead Posts: 748
From: Dayton, OH
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-28-2003 05:33 PM
   
Just found a 8" rear for my 65 4/5 lug conversion. Need help with the (rear) drum brakes:
Does anyone have a Color photo of their drum brakes w/o the drum on? Problem is that there was no brake hardware on the rearend when I purchased it and now I bought all the parts to rebuild the brakes I don't know where the different springs go. The kit that I bought had a green, blue, yellow, and two purple springs with it (per side). Thanks
P.S. I have the shop manual picture but you cannot decifier what spring goes where, just the location springs are at
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lreeder
Gearhead Posts: 112
From: Houston, TX 77090
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-28-2003 05:44 PM
Going from memory here. Sorry, I don't have a picture.Two purple ones should go on the shoe retainer pins. Blue one is at the bottom and goes to the self-adjuster bracket, yellow goes from top anchor to front shoe, green goes from top anchor to the rear shoe.
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65ponycar
Gearhead Posts: 748
From: Dayton, OH
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-28-2003 06:02 PM
Thanks! I've swapped the yellow/green back and forth many-of-times trying to decide which position they fit better in. I just needed some reasurance before I tried to make any adjustments. Are the springs supposed to fit tight to assemble/remove?, I am having a struggle to do so, just curious if there is an "easy" way
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1380
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 08-28-2003 07:10 PM
yes you have to use a vise grip and pull hard to get them on this would be right..Bruce
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lonewolf
Gearhead Posts: 262
From: Colorado
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-29-2003 02:03 PM
Let me suggest you go out and get the drum brake spring tools. There is one (kind of like a big nut drvier) for retainer springs and another spoon like one for the shoe anchors. Total cost for both would be about $15. It is the best money you can spend on it.There is another spoon tool for adjusting the brakes through the back plate that is kind of optional but definitely handy. ------------------
Lonewolf
1968 Coupe in Pieces
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 2416
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 08-29-2003 02:31 PM
The tool is well worth the money and will make the job much easier.
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65ponycar
Gearhead Posts: 748
From: Dayton, OH
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-29-2003 04:11 PM
thanks for the replies, glad to hear it was Supposed to be hard to fit the springs in. In retrospect, I should have bought the right tools, didn't know that they even existed though!
Done with "phase 1" of learning drum brakes, now another probably esay question. How do I bolt the actual drum houseing on? or is it just held by the wheel studs? thanks
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lonewolf
Gearhead Posts: 262
From: Colorado
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-29-2003 04:29 PM
Just held on by being smashed between the wheel and the hub on the rear. Once the brakes are tightened up and adjusted, it won't flop around like it does now with the wheel off.------------------
Lonewolf
1968 Coupe in Pieces
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 4857
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-29-2003 04:30 PM
i do believe it's held on by the wheel studs. unless it's the front, then it's held on by the bearings/spindle/hub nut.------------------
66 coupe
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C4 auto
"someone who knows how will always have a job working for someone who knows why"
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N266fords
Gearhead Posts: 1380
From: Spokane ,WA USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 08-29-2003 04:33 PM
the drum is held on by the wheel and studs. i like to get my brakes adjusted so the drums go on with a little resistants and after they are on I use the little hole in the back to adjust them out to where it just meets the drum. then go from there.Bruce
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65ponycar
Gearhead Posts: 748
From: Dayton, OH
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-29-2003 08:17 PM
thanks guys, I really appreciate all the great responses answering my questions. I really didn't want my first brake job to turn into a "big mistake"; glad I had help to walk me through it 
All I have left now is to adjust, and that shouldn't be a very hard Saturday morning project...
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