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Topic: auto choke
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 01:21 PM
   
Hi guys, I'm putting a different carb on my 289. the deal is, the auto choke assembly is completely missing from my car. is there a picture or something that would show me what I need to look for and how it is installed. My Manual shows zip.------------------
66 coupe
289
C4 auto
"someone who knows how will always have a job working for someone who knows why"
http://webpages.charter.net/adragon8u/mystang
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lreeder
Gearhead Posts: 112
From: Houston, TX 77090
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 02:04 PM
What kind of carb?
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 02:07 PM
Just a stock ford 2 bbl that runs nicer on the 289 until I can rebuild the Holley that's on it now.------------------
66 coupe
289
C4 auto
"someone who knows how will always have a job working for someone who knows why"
http://webpages.charter.net/adragon8u/mystang
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lreeder
Gearhead Posts: 112
From: Houston, TX 77090
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 04:16 PM
I thought I had a picture of one on my computer, but I don't. I'll try to take a pic or two for you when I get home.
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by lreeder:
I thought I had a picture of one on my computer, but I don't. I'll try to take a pic or two for you when I get home.
Thanks, I know this is most likely a very simple and straight forward installation, but the car was missing all of this when I bought it. Thought about going to manual choke, but would much rather have auto.
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66 coupe
289
C4 auto
"someone who knows how will always have a job working for someone who knows why"
http://webpages.charter.net/adragon8u/mystang
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 3332
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 08-13-2003 08:28 PM
Are you missing the choke itself? If you've got that much, and it's an Autolite 2100, and you've got the original exhaust manifolds, then a fat metal outlet hose covered in braided material should run from the choke assembly and connect to a hole on top of the passenger side manifold. Immediately beneath that hole is a smaller one, from which another metal hose comes out and up and connects by a length of rubber hose to a vacuum port on the underside of the carb's air horn.
Different engines are different, but what I describe exactly matches a 68 289 with 2V.
But if you're missing the WHOLE choke assembly, I'd think it would be easiest to find a spare carb for parts.
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 09:48 PM
it's just a basic motorcraft? 2v they both have the auo chokes on them, i just need to get the piece that goe's from the carb to the manifold. been trying to find a picture or find someone around here with a 289 2v that i can look at for reference before i go off finding the parts------------------
66 coupe
289
C4 auto
"someone who knows how will always have a job working for someone who knows why"
http://webpages.charter.net/adragon8u/mystang
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lreeder
Gearhead Posts: 112
From: Houston, TX 77090
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 08-13-2003 11:07 PM
I forgot about your picture, but by reading your last post, I don't have the setup installed that you need to see.All it is is a piece of steel tubing with, I believe, a compression nut and ferrule on the carb end. It goes from there to a small hole in the right hand exhaust manifold and has an asbestos like cloth over it. Most of the aftermarket Mustang suppliers have the complete kit. Check this link http://catalogs.google.com/catalogs?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&issue=20970&catpage=128&sa=Go
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 508
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 08-13-2003 11:11 PM
I have a spare autolite 2100 with a choke that I don't need and would give to you. It would need a complete rebuild, but the choke is in nice order. Would you like me to send you the whole carb or how about just the choke? I believe I also have the choke heat tube that goes to and from the exhaust pipe and attaches to the choke if I can find it.
Let me know if you are interested. 
Daniel
[email protected]
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 508
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 08-13-2003 11:14 PM
Oh, I also have a 2100 rebuild article with a LOT of pictures I could photocopy and send if you want it. That would be cheaper than shipping the carb and you might be able to get a core locally. If I remember correctly, most mid-60's Ford V8s had the same choke--2bbls and 4bbls.
Daniel
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-14-2003 12:20 AM
Lreeder:
That looks just like the part I need, thanks.BornInAFord:
WOW man, that's a REALLY generous offer. The carb I have right now really gives the stang a nice sound to it, but i have to leave the choke open all the time which makes for long cold starts. All I really need is a nice picture of what I'm looking for so i can get the correct part(i'm a real dummy when it comes to cars). Thanks for the offer, but I'm sure there's someone out there who can use it more than me at this time. ------------------
66 coupe
289
C4 auto
"someone who knows how will always have a job working for someone who knows why"
http://webpages.charter.net/adragon8u/mystang
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 508
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 08-14-2003 02:10 PM
Would you like me to send you the article?
Daniel
[email protected]
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-14-2003 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by BornInAFord:
Would you like me to send you the article?
Daniel
[email protected]
Sure! that would be very helpful. is it something that can be emailed? Thanks again for your generosity.[email protected]
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 3750
From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-14-2003 09:43 PM
Did you figure out what part you need? Do you need the tube from the 2v to the manifold? Do you still have the stock manifold? If you don't, the tube isn't going to do you any good. It pulls in the hot air from the exhaust and senses it to turn the choke down based on temperature. Sorry, if I'm telling you stuff you already know. I just took my 2v off, and I think I can still put my hand on the tube, if you want it. 99% of the braiding is gone, but the tube is good. Let me know if you want it.
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-14-2003 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by GTRocks:
Did you figure out what part you need? Do you need the tube from the 2v to the manifold? Do you still have the stock manifold? If you don't, the tube isn't going to do you any good. It pulls in the hot air from the exhaust and senses it to turn the choke down based on temperature. Sorry, if I'm telling you stuff you already know. I just took my 2v off, and I think I can still put my hand on the tube, if you want it. 99% of the braiding is gone, but the tube is good. Let me know if you want it.
man, I don't know what to say, i've already had two different people offer me parts. I knew this site had cool people but this proves it more. As I was saying to BornInAFord, I really appreciate the offers, but all I needed was the picture of the tube assembly so I know what to look for. I hope I'm not offending anyone by not accepting your offers. it's just more than I needed or expected.
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 3750
From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-15-2003 06:42 PM
Man, you're going to have to try harder than that to offend people around here!! And you're right, this is an awesome site!  Good luck with it! Dave ------------------
'66 Coupe C code
'93 GT 'vert (AOD to T5 swapped)
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 508
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 08-16-2003 12:46 AM
I couldn't download the pics--my scanner is not working.  Here is the next best thing, a link (what would we do without google!) to a pretty good rebuild description and lots of pics--have fun.
http://hurtle.com/cars/mustang/fixes/carb/
Daniel
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BornInAFord
Gearhead Posts: 508
From: Bend, OR, USA
Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 08-16-2003 12:50 AM
The nice thing about this site--lots of good friends and lots of free advice.  By the way, if you click on the pics from the above link, they will enlarge to a more useable size. Daniel
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 08-16-2003 04:04 PM
thanks to everyone who helped. i think i have plenty of good info.
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jalentz
Journeyman Posts: 6
From: Madison, WI USA
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-22-2004 05:37 PM
Reviving an old thread, because my problem is similar.....In my case, I have what apears to be the original manifold, but it seems the attachment points are rusted out. How do the choke tubes attach to the manifold?
Is this a nipple of some sort I can remove/replace?
Can anyone photograph the connection between a 289 exhaust manifold and the choke tubes? (mine is a 65)
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adragon8u
Gearhead Posts: 5104
From: Oceano, Ca. member# 2895
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 04-22-2004 05:45 PM
I believe it's a small hole in the exhaust just below/behind #4 plug. The tube just fits in there? I still haven't gotten mine yet. ------------------
"I started with nothing, and I still have most of it left"
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GTRocks
Gearhead Posts: 3750
From: Lusby, MD
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-22-2004 09:10 PM
Unfortunately, I took mine off. It came out really easily though which makes me think it just kind of slid into the hole. It's only function really is to supply exhaust heat up to the choke, so I don't think it's anything fancy.
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Mooney
Gearhead Posts: 1691
From: Marietta, Ga
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 04-22-2004 09:24 PM
It does just push right into the manifold, and if you can't get it in there, take a lil file and clean the whole out a bit, I was able to work it in there 3/4 to 1 inch inside the manifold. And worked fine ever after.
BTW Welcome to M&M!!!
Luke[This message has been edited by Mooney (edited 04-22-2004).]
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jalentz
Journeyman Posts: 6
From: Madison, WI USA
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-23-2004 05:04 PM
ok....making progresswhat I thought was a nipple is just the rusted end of the previous tube...getting it out will be fun but I can do it remaining problem....I have the wrong choke tube kit. All of the kits an any parts supplier I can find are the same. The differences 1. All the diagrams I can find match my carb with an autolite 2100....except the choke heat tube connection on mine is perpendicular to the carb and points from near the front of the choke, straight out toward the passenger fender 2. The only vacuum out of my carb is the vacuum advance to the distributer 3. My exhaust manifold has only one hole...pointed straight up I have a hard time thinking that this is not all orig equipment based upon the repair history I know of this car and the fact that I choke, manifold, carb all seem to work together fine.... My questions
Can this system operate without vacuum assist?
Where can I get the right tube for this one tube system?
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jalentz
Journeyman Posts: 6
From: Madison, WI USA
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 04-23-2004 05:15 PM
finished typing the last post....found the diagram that would have helped me days ago....in the strangest place...ok....so I do have a vacuum hookup and can figure that out.....
but I still don't know why my choke tube points the wrong way and which kit or how I can get a tube to fit my choke
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