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HHStang
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posted 07-29-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any idea what would cause my driver's side door lock not to go all the way up and require alot of pressure to go down? I can pull enough to open it when the door is open, but not when the door is closed. This happened on the tail of the body shop rebuilding a door to complete a paint job. This happens whether I'm pulling on the knob or using the key. Any ideas?

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 07-30-2003 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is the latch? Is it cracked where it mounts to the door?

You may have to take the panel off and take a peek.

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adragon8u
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posted 07-30-2003 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when I bought my 66, the passenger door was "frozen in time" couldn't pull up the lock, key was so hard to turn i was afraid of breaking it. pulled the inside panel off and sprayed the p... out of the assembly and worked it up and down a few times. now it's very smooth.

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HHStang
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posted 07-31-2003 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing cracked and it doesn't appear to be a lubrication thing. It's almost like the internal lock assembly was assembled wrong.

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Ralph Rebandt
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posted 07-31-2003 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ralph Rebandt   Click Here to Email Ralph Rebandt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They may have wrapped the rod for the lock around another rod hence the tightness. I have just been in my 68 door. If you pull the panel, chances are you will see what is wrong if the latch assembly is ok. Also if you do not know what you are looking for, remove the other door panel and take a look where the rods are that are working well. This is how I put mine back together.

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sigtauenus
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posted 08-01-2003 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are we talking about fixing a job a body shop did? Do they have any kind of guarantee on their work? Have you told the body shop it won't work to see if THEY will make it right?

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adragon8u
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posted 08-01-2003 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sigtauenus:
Are we talking about fixing a job a body shop did? Do they have any kind of guarantee on their work? Have you told the body shop it won't work to see if THEY will make it right?


GOOD POINT! surprised no one else caught that.

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HHStang
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posted 08-01-2003 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was a body shop from hell. The guy was supposed to have my car back to me in 3 weeks. After 2 1/2 months, I went to the shop, threw a check at the guy for 1/2 of what he wanted and towed the car home. I've had to finish puting the car back together, there was dirt in the paint, runs, etc. Apparently, the guy's personal evils got hold of him right in the middle of my project. He was evicted 3 days after I picked my car up. So, no warranty possibility and I wouldn't take it back there if he were the last bodyguy on earth anyway. I'll try the check the other door trick, but was hoping someone had seen this problem before I tore that door apart too.

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lreeder
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posted 08-01-2003 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lreeder   Click Here to Email lreeder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just out of curiosity, can you open the door with the exterior handle?

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HHStang
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posted 08-01-2003 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure. I can open from outside and inside. If I go for a ride, the lock works it's way down and won't come back up from key or handles. It's stiff to turn key begin with and once the door closes, it's impossible.

[This message has been edited by HHStang (edited 08-01-2003).]

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adragon8u
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posted 08-01-2003 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man! bummer about getting a bad bodyshop. I'm sure there are some very good bodyshops around, but all it takes is one a** like that to make you leary of where you take your car. people used to tell me that you can tell a good shop by how many cars are parked around it, but that could go either way. are they there because he's good? or are they there because he never gets around to finishing them.

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adragon8u
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posted 08-01-2003 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adragon8u   Click Here to Email adragon8u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, did the guy happen to have any other mustangs like yours around that you know of? he might have robbed a part off yours to correct another with a higher priority on his list. I know that sounds distrustful but worse things have happened.

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HHStang
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posted 08-01-2003 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the guy is actually a talented painter, but a lousy businessman. He was busy and doing great work when I took the car in. His habits and everything hit the fan while my car was there. The car still looks cool (black and flames), but has some flaws that I'm still deciding if I want to correct or not. (More $$$)

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HHStang
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posted 08-01-2003 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No other old Mustangs there. He had some NOPI cars, an old Caprice, a BMW 745i, etc. No Mustangs, I just don't think he put it back together right. I think my door is really a 68 as I had to drill holes in the inner door to put new arm rests on.

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Red65
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posted 08-01-2003 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talented painter, but had runs and dirt in paint?

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HHStang
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posted 08-01-2003 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are right. I saw some of his work prior to his implosion -- it was great! How about he is a talented guy: in a hurry trying to beat building eviction, desperate for money, doing work by himself because his staff of 6 walked out because they didn't get paid for 2 months, jonesing for a heroin fix while painting my Stang. Is that a better description?

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Red65
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posted 08-01-2003 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL!! That's a pretty graphic picture!!

It's a shame about your car, although the door lock should be an easy fix. Like most folks have suggested, open the door panel and see if the linkages are in a bind, or if you need to lube or replace the latch. I've seen people jerry-rig the linkages, especially if they break off the little retainer clips on the end.

You might check the operation of the lock cylinder while you're in there, the key should turn super easy with the rods disconnected.

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HHStang
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posted 08-01-2003 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! It will be a Saturday project. We'll see.

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HHStang
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posted 08-10-2003 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHStang   Click Here to Email HHStang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Problem solved. It was actually two problems. The bodyshop had bent the lock rod and it was binding. Additionally, the door handle rod on the door latch was adjusted too tight.

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