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Topic: 1967-68 Mustangs question
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albatross
Journeyman Posts: 28
From: NZ
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 05-30-2003 11:12 AM
  
I have started looking for a 67 or 68 427 or 428 GT Fastback and was hoping someone could tell me how many of each were made so I can figure out if they're in my budget or not. Doesn't seem like much is about on the 427 and I think it was an option for '67 only??
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JCQuinn@work
Gearhead Posts: 383
From: Lakewood, CO, USA
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 05-30-2003 11:56 AM
I have seen (on the web) several people who research Mustangs say that the 427 was never put into a production Mustang. I believe them, I never have heard of one either.In 67 the GT big blocks were 390s. In 68 you could get either a 390 or a 428. John
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Fastback68
Gearhead Posts: 1527
From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 05-30-2003 12:01 PM
Yup, John's right. No matter how many stories pop up about 68 427s, there are twice as many folks will tell you the cars never happened - for production cars anyway.
68 428s seem to go for about double the price of everything else. I'd think $30,000 would pick you up a nice one. Sorry, I don't know how many were made, but it wasn't many - mostly fastbacks.
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17359
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-30-2003 06:31 PM
Yes it has been confirmed by Kiven Marti there were no W Code (427) installed/optioned off the assembly lines however the question has remained if any were transplanted into a '68 by some of the dealers..this has never been confirmed nor has any surfaced.The cost of a "good" 1968 Mustang with the 428 Cj is in the 30K+ range. Here's a website on the 1968 Mustangs
www.1968mustang.org and here's one on the 428 CJ which will give you production numbers..
http://www.428cobrajet.org/production.html
Sam [This message has been edited by mustangs68 (edited 05-30-2003).]
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albatross
Journeyman Posts: 28
From: NZ
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 05-30-2003 09:06 PM
Thanks all. What I've seen so far is all priced over 45K so I may have to do a rethink and go for a GT390 instead. But I'm still months away from sorting out the garage.
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 242
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 05-31-2003 12:00 AM
Tid bit of uselss information: There was one exception. It was a '67 Shelby GT-500. It came with a 427 nstead of the 428. Instead of the twin LeMans stripes, it had a larger version of the "GT" rocker stripe across the top. Charlie
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17359
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-31-2003 03:14 PM
So would ya like to see it  http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=165
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 242
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 05-31-2003 10:06 PM
Actually the one I recall was wimbleton white with blue stripes. Are there two? Charlie
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17359
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 06-01-2003 08:37 AM
LOL..you know there's always more than one "One of a Kind rare Mustang"
sam
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 221
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 06-01-2003 08:48 AM
The 1968 W-Code Mustang was never built...according to researchers such as Kevin Marti (And I beleive him as he is very thorough)...The 427/390HP found it's way into the 1968 COUGAR before the late introduction of the 428CJ. The 427/390HP was a poor descendant of it's predecessor. It had a newly cast block...not a side oiler as for 1965/1967, and was designed for a hydraulic drivetrain (Mild 390 GT cam). It had small heads (390) and couldn't breathe all that well. It was not until TASCA FORD started experimenting with a 428 for a street car that FORD came out of it's fog and noticed that they had nothing to run with GM, MOPAR and AMC. This was the introduction of the 428CJ later in the model year.
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KULTULZ
Gearhead Posts: 221
From: Rockville, MD
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 06-01-2003 09:34 AM
Some Interesting Reading;-Concocting the Cobra Jet by Mike Mueller- In the late sixties if you drove a FORD, you were simply laughed at. FORD really dropped the ball until it saw this prototype.
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nickmobile67
Journeyman Posts: 27
From: NJ
Registered: May 2003
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posted 06-01-2003 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by mustangs68:
[B]So would ya like to see it
That isn't the car. The one original was built by shelby and called the Super Snake. It was white with blue skinny-wide-skinny blue stripes. They were going to build 50 but they couldn't sell the first one for $7000+, you could buy a cobra for that. Here's the link to the page of where the car is now: http://www.nvsaac.com/gallery/1967_shelby_gt500_18.htm
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17359
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 06-01-2003 09:43 PM
Super Snake was a one of a kind that never saw production..
http://www.mustangmonthly.com/thehistoryof/97358/index5.htmlwhat linked to above was a production Shelby. sam
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MidLifCrisis
Gearhead Posts: 242
From: USA
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-03-2003 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by nickmobile67:
That isn't the car. The one original was built by shelby and called the Super Snake. It was white with blue skinny-wide-skinny blue stripes. They were going to build 50 but they couldn't sell the first one for $7000+, you could buy a cobra for that.
this is the one remember. I saw it at a SAAC national convention in the '80's. Virtually identical to any other GT-500, except for the stripe, motor, and history.
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 969
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 06-04-2003 09:29 AM
Perogie had or might still have a red 67 GT500 that was suppose to have an original 427 medium riser in it that they showed. I really don?t know how correct that is.
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RICKS
Gearhead Posts: 241
From: Ocala, FL
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 06-04-2003 10:32 AM
You could get an original equipment 427 in a '67 Shelby, it was an available option. Larry Dobbs used to own one (may still, I dunno). I'm certain that more than a few performance-oriented Ford dealerships did 427 transplants in 1967 for new car customers who wanted more performance than the 390, and didn't want a Shelby. That type of arrangement, where the car was sold new with a dealer installed Ford crate motor, was not uncommon in the 60's.
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17359
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 06-04-2003 05:50 PM
RICKS, the link I posted has the follow text..your correct...as usual This 1967 GT 500 has a 427 side oiler under the hood. Larry Dobbs, publisher of Mustang Monthly, use to own this California Shelby Mustang. It is the featured car in the Mustang Recognition Guide. The car has a special fiberglass hood with cooling louvers cut into it to let the heat escape to cool the hot 427 engine.
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Zoomzoom
Journeyman Posts: 8
From: Triangle, Virginia, USA
Registered: May 2003
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posted 06-05-2003 01:49 PM
What about foreign built Mustangs? I know that Australia had already stopped production of the Mustang by 1968, however, Mexico, Peru, Venezuela, and the Netherlands were still building them. Did Ford possibly offer a 427 outside of the U.S.?
And, what about all the Mustangs that were built here and shipped out to other countries? I know there are still plenty of 68 T-5?s in Germany.
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T5owner
Gearhead Posts: 614
From: Germany
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 06-05-2003 05:29 PM
None known out here on the other side of the US earthdisc
We've still got that W-code 68 sitting in tiny Switzerland that has a W stamped on its tag, but the same VIN checked by Kevin showed up another "planned" engine.
Anyway there is still the possibility that it was delivered ex-factor to some Ford relate supplier for being equipped with a W-code, but indeed no W-code ex-factory out there as Kevin confirmed several times.
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 17359
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 06-05-2003 05:53 PM
Yea, I think Kevin has worn out the "w" key doing searches of this database for us
sam
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