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Bailey66
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From: Louisville, KY, USA
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posted 04-30-2003 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bailey66        Reply w/Quote
New to the world of car work, so I have a question that is likely very simple.
I have a 66 coupe with inline 6.
I recently had to install a new carb. Both cold and warm idle seem fine. However, whenever I accelerate while driving, the engine stalls a bit, seems like it wants to die, then kicks back in. A choke problem? A timing problem? Any suggestions on what adjustments should be tried will be greatly appreciated.

Richard

1_ZoNiE
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posted 05-01-2003 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1_ZoNiE        Reply w/Quote
Have my doubts it could be a timing problem. It's not backfiring through the carb is it when you accelerate on a roll? First thing I would do, would be to check to see if the choke was open when it reached operating temperatures. Does it stumble from a standing start? If it does then you may need to adjust the accelerator pump to give a little more squirt to compensate for the amount of air entering the engine when the throttle is opening. But, first check the choke!

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Jim

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aGreenAgent
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From: Orange County, CA
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posted 05-01-2003 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aGreenAgent        Reply w/Quote
It does that to me. It's an inadequate pump shot I believe. The guys will tell you more.

Bailey66
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posted 05-01-2003 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bailey66        Reply w/Quote
Thanks. Yes, the choke is open at operating temperature. So, I will check the accelerator pump and try to adjust it. Again, thanks.

Richard

1_ZoNiE
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posted 05-01-2003 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1_ZoNiE        Reply w/Quote
Let us know what you find out.

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Jim

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Bailey66
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posted 05-01-2003 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bailey66        Reply w/Quote
Jim,

I adjusted the accelerator pump a bit, but no noticeable difference. So, I decided to fiddle with the choke adjustment to see if any change. I did notice a little better response as I turned the choke cover for a leaner setting . Though still stumbling when accelerating hard, especially between say 30-50 mph. I guess I will mess with the choke adjustment a bit more tomorrow?

Richard

Bailey66
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posted 05-01-2003 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bailey66        Reply w/Quote
One other thing I wondered about on this issue--what are the chances it could be the fuel pump?

66project
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posted 05-01-2003 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66project        Reply w/Quote
My 289 did the exact same thing a few years back after the smog Nazis messed with my Carb's needle valves. It turned out to be a mixture problem...and after painful hours of messing with the mixture, choke, and idle adjustments (what a pain on a 30 yr old 4 barrel Holley!), I was finally able to get things running smoothly again.

N266fords
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posted 05-02-2003 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for N266fords        Reply w/Quote
Even though it was rebuilt dont rule out a blocked port in the carb! also what is your fuel preasure and is it a clocked fuel filter does it do it under light accel or under full ? Bruce

Bailey66
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posted 05-02-2003 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bailey66        Reply w/Quote
Pretty much only does it under full acceleration.

BlueMule
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posted 05-03-2003 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule        Reply w/Quote
Welcome to M&M...
Is the car actually dying and falling on it's face or is it acting like it can't get out of it's own way (kinda like a chebby ).
You may want to verify that the vacuum advance source is in the correct port. Another thing to check is the functionality of the vacuum advance on the distributor. I had one fail once and the engine wouldn't wind up worth a hoot. It also proved to be one of those impossible to find vacuum leaks.

Just a few thoughts...

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-Paul

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indyphil
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posted 05-05-2003 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil        Reply w/Quote
I second the idea to check fuel filter and fuel pump.

Old cars like these have rusty fuel tanks and clog filters easily. I just changed my tank because of this. The old tank had 35 years of crud in it, including some small pebbles. I have a pop open gas cap so some kids at some time in the cars history probably thought it would be funny to put stuff in there.

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RonnieT
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posted 05-05-2003 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RonnieT        Reply w/Quote
The 351W in my 69 mach1 did the same thing you are describing, it would run good with a lot of initial timing, but when I set the timing anything below 14 degrees it would fall on it's face when i hit the throttle hard. The cure for it was a new carb, I never did take the old one apart, but figure it was a vacuum leak around the throttle shafts.

I just read your post again and see its a 6 cyl, I think that this is a common problem with the 1 barrel carbs, Pony Carbs talks about correcting these problems when they restore these carbs.

From: http://www.ponycarburetors.com/restore.htm#autolite1100

AUTOLITE 1100
The 1100 is one of our specialty products. The day the carburetors were manufactured they had engineering problems, and in-driveability, those problems were hesitations and flat spots on acceleration, a general lack of power, and hard starting when hot. We correct all of those problems during the restoration by re-engineering the interior specifications of the carburetor.

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Ronnie
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Bailey66
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posted 05-05-2003 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bailey66        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I am still working through a few things. Actually, have Napa ordering a Holley 1946, as well, to possibly exchange the 1100 for it. Again, thanks for all the help

Richard

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