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70SportsRoof
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posted 04-09-2003 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about this and hope to get some input from others. What is really the best way to make my car quicker, and for the least amount of $$? This is my car as it is: '70 fastback, 351W, Carter 625, FMX, 3.00 gears, dual exhaust. I was thinking gears...maybe 3.25 or 3.5's. The car sees very little highway use, just around town mostly. I'm on a budget, so anything to make her quicker and for as little $$ as possible is a help.

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-09-2003 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A set of long tube headers.
NOTHING will give you MORE bang for the $buck$.

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70SportsRoof
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posted 04-09-2003 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, that'll be a good excuse to throw on some 40 series Flowmasters finally.

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Gary M.-
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johnmustang
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posted 04-09-2003 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
A set of long tube headers.
NOTHING will give you MORE bang for the $buck$.


ALEX,

How much HP gain from long tubes as compared to stock manifolds?

JOHN

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-09-2003 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My real world experiance on SBF's has been in the 20 to 25 HP range once the tune up has been optomized.

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Alex Denysenko
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dubstar
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posted 04-10-2003 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubstar   Click Here to Email dubstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i always thought Gears were the best bang for your buck. but i guess some situations call for something different.

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Moneymaker
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posted 04-10-2003 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't buy a set of new gears for $120.

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Tea'sGrabber
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posted 04-10-2003 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tea'sGrabber   Click Here to Email Tea'sGrabber     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Long tube headers..... Then go find a Mustang II V-6 4spd car and take the 3.55 center section out of it. Both for under $200.00...... Spend whatever's left on tuning!!!!!!!

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sick66
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posted 04-10-2003 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sick66   Click Here to Email sick66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
either that or laughing gas.....no on can argue with 100 hp for $350.

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70SportsRoof
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posted 04-10-2003 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, i can add lot's of HP w/ nitrous...but I'm looking for power that is usable all the time. Besides, I prefer not to have a NOx tank in the trunk of my car in 120 degree summer days here in AZ.

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Gary M.-
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70SportsRoof
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posted 04-10-2003 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tea'sGrabber:
Long tube headers..... Then go find a Mustang II V-6 4spd car and take the 3.55 center section out of it. Both for under $200.00...... Spend whatever's left on tuning!!!!!!!


Do the MII's have a 9 inch rear? I thought they had 8" rears? The rear in my car is 9"...but that brings up something new. Are used gears worth using?

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dubstar
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posted 04-13-2003 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubstar   Click Here to Email dubstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
You can't buy a set of new gears for $120.


i found gears for 120... granted they were for a different car


I still believe swapping that rear end to something a little quicker is the best way to go. but thats just me

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70SportsRoof
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posted 04-13-2003 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think I may go with Alex's recommendation and start shopping for some headers and new Flows. Then I'll look into gears.

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Gary M.-
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mustangboy
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posted 04-13-2003 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look for mid 60s ford pickups and econolines for some good 9 inch rear gears.I had a couple of 66s with 3.89 gears and my dad had an econoline with 4.56 gears There's lots of mid 70s with 3.50s as well.

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