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Topic: 4 speed for 200 6
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66stangkid
Journeyman Posts: 57
From: Rowlett,TX US
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 03-15-2003 03:43 PM
   
u guys won't believe what i found today!i bought a 4speed off a 200 6.i was told that it was really rare and that there was a 4speed for a 200 6.and all the shifting linkage was still there.got the thing for 100 bucks!anways thought i would let u guys know
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The Iceman
Gearhead Posts: 2083
From: Shelton, CT
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 03-15-2003 04:53 PM
ah thats a great find!
its a good STRONG tranny and will be much nicer than the T-5 --- I dont believe you need any adapter plate for it, however I COULD BE WRONG, so ask about it over in the Drivetrain Section at www.fordsix.com and Im sure Al and all of them will have all the answers and info you need on the swap (I do believe its even mroe straightforward then putting in the T-5)again, nice buy! have fun with it!   ------------------
CrAzY Dan~
1965 Coupe "BeeBop"
200ci Straight Six, T-5, Cliffy 6-2 header, and some other goodies :)https://mustangsandmore.com//ubb/TheIceman.html July of 2000 pics
http://kingroyale.50megs.com/] Newest Pics!
1988 Notchback ~~ 2.3 w/AOD...upgrades coming soon!
There's Nothing Wrong With A Little Six In A Classic Mustang! ;)
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amartin725
Gearhead Posts: 111
From: Attleboro, MA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-15-2003 05:30 PM
Um...is it a Dagenham?  It's about as strong as a block of styrofoam.... Al
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66stangkid
Journeyman Posts: 57
From: Rowlett,TX US
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 03-15-2003 09:17 PM
what is that guy talking about???? quote:
Originally posted by The Iceman:
ah thats a great find!
its a good STRONG tranny and will be much nicer than the T-5 --- I dont believe you need any adapter plate for it, however I COULD BE WRONG, so ask about it over in the Drivetrain Section at www.fordsix.com and Im sure Al and all of them will have all the answers and info you need on the swap (I do believe its even mroe straightforward then putting in the T-5)again, nice buy! have fun with it!
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amartin725
Gearhead Posts: 111
From: Attleboro, MA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-15-2003 10:39 PM
The only 4-speed that was offered behind the 200 was the English Dagenham. It was not a strong tranny and can be extremely expensive to fix if you can locate the parts for it. 'Wooden gears' was a popular term for it. Now, with the right mix of parts, you can install a Toploader 4-speed or later SROD 4-speed behind the 200, but they weren't factory installed in the 60's.Hopefully, if you did get a Dagenham, that it came with the bellhousing as it was different than the 1960 to 1965 2.77 bellhousing. Also, if you currently have the 2.77 and have a 2-bolt starter (indicated a '66-specific 2.77), then you'll need the smaller 8 1/2" recessed style flywheel because the Dag bell won't fit over the larger one. I've been researching, collecting, and selling 144/170/200 specific bellhousing, tranny components and adapters for 3 years now and started my research over 10 years ago. Currently, I have in my possession 8 DIFFERENT manual bellhousings that were used behind the 144/170/200 from 1960 to 1982, so I'm not blowing smoke, I know what I'm talking about. Fordsix.com if you want to know more. Have we see that before?  Al
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The Iceman
Gearhead Posts: 2083
From: Shelton, CT
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 03-16-2003 11:44 AM
Ah Im sorry Collin and Al, I didnt assume that it was a Dagenham, I assumed that he got a good deal on a toploader or a 4-speed from a truck and wasnt sure what the adapter plate deal would be for it In short.....I apologize for the misinformation, Im terribly sorry!  have a good one
*Ill just go sheepishly into the corner.....* ------------------
CrAzY Dan~
1965 Coupe "BeeBop"
200ci Straight Six, T-5, Cliffy 6-2 header, and some other goodies :)https://mustangsandmore.com//ubb/TheIceman.html July of 2000 pics
http://kingroyale.50megs.com/] Newest Pics!
1988 Notchback ~~ 2.3 w/AOD...upgrades coming soon!
There's Nothing Wrong With A Little Six In A Classic Mustang! ;)
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66stangkid
Journeyman Posts: 57
From: Rowlett,TX US
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 03-16-2003 11:38 PM
hey it's cool man,,,,i'll run into worse problems down the road,,,no biggie.i planned on getting a T5 soon anyways,,no sweat man.thanks,your my new source for info for my 6. quote:
Originally posted by The Iceman:
Ah Im sorry Collin and Al, I didnt assume that it was a Dagenham, I assumed that he got a good deal on a toploader or a 4-speed from a truck and wasnt sure what the adapter plate deal would be for it In short.....I apologize for the misinformation, Im terribly sorry! have a good one
*Ill just go sheepishly into the corner.....*
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66stangkid
Journeyman Posts: 57
From: Rowlett,TX US
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 03-16-2003 11:43 PM
speaking of t5,,would it be better to rebuild one,or getting a new one.either way,what would a new one run me???
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amartin725
Gearhead Posts: 111
From: Attleboro, MA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-17-2003 08:37 AM
Dan's a great guy, but he's not the only one with information. You're welcome for the help
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1226
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 03-17-2003 12:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by 66stangkid:
speaking of t5,,would it be better to rebuild one,or getting a new one.either way,what would a new one run me???
Just outside of Macon Georgia there's a place that rebuilds T5's to order. $695 + $200 core. They told me they would sell me a rebuildable core for $200. I'm going to go that route and build my own. Mustang Central in Byron Ga. 478-956-3871. They dont give a warranty because too many people use them for drag cars and tear them up too often.
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