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GeerWerkz
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posted 03-03-2003 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I aquired a 67 from a friend of mine, originally it had a 200cid 6 and 3 on the tree in it now it sports a unknown vintage 302 2bbl Auto, anyway I added a power brake booster and need to change the pedal assembly but I'm confused, do I need to change the bracket too the pivot looks much further from the pushrod in the pictures I've seen and I don't think the bracket in my car has and extra set of holes to mount it (kinda hard to see under there) anyone done this on a 67?

Thanks in advance,
Robert

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Pierre
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posted 03-04-2003 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeerWerkz:
I aquired a 67 from a friend of mine, originally it had a 200cid 6 and 3 on the tree in it now it sports a unknown vintage 302 2bbl Auto, anyway I added a power brake booster and need to change the pedal assembly but I'm confused, do I need to change the bracket too the pivot looks much further from the pushrod in the pictures I've seen and I don't think the bracket in my car has and extra set of holes to mount it (kinda hard to see under there) anyone done this on a 67?

Thanks in advance,
Robert


Yup ! THERE IS a small hole located way up high in the bracket that you have to use as the new pedal pivot. You need to buy a power brake pedal (junkyard or kit from mustang shops)which is longer than the standard one. The kit also provides all necessary hardware to connect the pedal to the bracket. Shouldn't be too hard

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blown 351
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posted 03-04-2003 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blown 351   Click Here to Email blown 351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert,
I believe I have everything you need, and I'm just up the road in Lake Stevens.
I've got a complete 69' disc brake set-up available also/ spindles, discs, backing plates, calipers, hoses, bearings, etc. About 3k miles on all.
If you're interested.

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GeerWerkz
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posted 03-04-2003 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blown 351:
Robert,
I believe I have everything you need, and I'm just up the road in Lake Stevens.
I've got a complete 69' disc brake set-up available also/ spindles, discs, backing plates, calipers, hoses, bearings, etc. About 3k miles on all.
If you're interested.

Wow! Sounds great! How much for the pedal assy or all? I could go for the rest too if funds permit you don't happen to have the rear axle too do ya? My little one is makin some noises and I'd like to match the brakes front/rear. my email in in my profile

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GeerWerkz
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posted 03-04-2003 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok so maybe my email isn't available
Try this: [email protected]

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horseballz
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posted 03-04-2003 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for horseballz   Click Here to Email horseballz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
blown351,
Please send me a few electrons and kbs about the brake set up. I don't need the pedal parts so Robert can grab those. Is it power or manual? How much$ My email address is: [email protected]
Thanx,
Gene

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horseballz
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posted 03-04-2003 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for horseballz   Click Here to Email horseballz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Robert,
How did you get your address to show up as a link like that?
Gene

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GeerWerkz
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posted 03-05-2003 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*EMAIL#[email protected]*/EMAIL#

replace the * with [
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blown 351
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posted 03-06-2003 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blown 351   Click Here to Email blown 351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geerwerkz,
Can't seem to get through to your E-Mail.
Call 360-653-4786, and tell them you want Neal's brake system.
Leave your phone number.

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GeerWerkz
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posted 03-06-2003 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okie dokie, I'll do that as soon as I get home (me posting from work, me bad)

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GeerWerkz
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posted 03-10-2003 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neal, Did you find it yet? I'm having to drive the car back and forth to work and the brakes are kinda scary the way they are. I'll just order a new one if you can't locate it.

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GeerWerkz
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posted 04-23-2003 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's done! Thanks to all for your help.

I ended up ordering a 68-69 power brake pedal assy from Mustangs Plus. Installation only took 1/2 an hour, and the pedal pressure is much improved! My only concern is the pedal sits a lot higher than it used to (about 1 1/2-2" higher than the gas pedal) is this normal?

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68 S-code GT
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posted 04-23-2003 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say the pedal sits higher do you mean vertically or toward you? I?ll have to look at mine when I get home.

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GeerWerkz
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posted 04-23-2003 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sticks out from the floor more (toward me) I keep cliping the edge of the pedal when my foot goes from the gas to the brake and I had to move the seat back a couple inches to keep from hitting my knee on the underside of the dash when I use the brakes I also have to use my toe on the gas.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 04-24-2003 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn?t get an actual measurement but if I put the back of my hand on the gas pedal the palm side of my fingers touch the back of the brake pedal. So I guess that would be about ?? or a little more. You can adjust your gas pedal to come toward you or away from you. I?ll check the shop manual when I get home to see what the height should be.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 04-25-2003 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the 68 shop manual the accelerator pedal should be 4? to 4 ?? away from the toe board. That?s the part of the floor that goes up on an angle from the flat floor pan to the firewall. This should be the same as the 67 as the only difference between the two brake pedals is the width of the pedal. The 67 is a little narrower from left to right and uses a different pad than the 68-9.

The adjustment on the accelerator pedal is made by spinning the accelerator shaft that attaches to the carb.

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GeerWerkz
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posted 04-25-2003 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeerWerkz   Click Here to Email GeerWerkz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info, sounds like the brake pedal is where it should be. I'll do the measurements/adjustments tonight.

Thanks again for all the help,
Robert

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68 S-code GT
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posted 04-25-2003 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, I ment that the accelerator pedal should be 4" to 4 1/2" form the toe board.

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Originally posted by GeerWerkz:
Thanks for the info, sounds like the brake pedal is where it should be. I'll do the measurements/adjustments tonight.

Thanks again for all the help,
Robert


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