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Topic: Disc Brake Plumbing Help :confused:
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ekbeanctr Gearhead Posts: 431 From: Middlebury, IN USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-10-2003 08:12 PM
I bled the brakes on my 65 tonight and it won't hold pressure. If I pump it up 6-7 times I get good pressure on the pedal. Release and wait a few minutes and I have to pump it up again!! It's a Stainless Steel Disc Brake setup on the front with a dual master cylinder from them. The Rear Larger chamber is hooked only to the front brakes. The Front Smaller chamber goes direct to a proportioning valve & Gauge that came with the stainless kit. Then to a Lincoln Versaille rear end with new calipers. All lines are brand new. The guy at the parts store said something about a pressure reservoir for the rear discs?? Has anybody set their car up similar? Am I missing something? Ernie------------------ Have a Wonderful Day CandyApple 65 Fastback 351W, 4 Speed Versaille 9" Rear End Global West Front End [email protected]
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 19964 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 02-10-2003 08:19 PM
Try bleeding them again Ernie. You need two people. Start with the right rear. Left rear next, then right front. Left front last. Make certain you keep your toe under the brake pedal while pumping so as not to over ride the master cylinder travel and suck air.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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ekbeanctr Gearhead Posts: 431 From: Middlebury, IN USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-10-2003 08:26 PM
I did the brake bleeding with the help of a good friend of mine, BUT I never heard of holding the toe under the brake pedal, I was pushing it clear to the floor. I will try again weds night and let you know. THANKS!! Ernie------------------ Have a Wonderful Day CandyApple 65 Fastback 351W, 4 Speed Versaille 9" Rear End Global West Front End [email protected]
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 19964 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 02-10-2003 08:39 PM
Make sure you follow my bleeding order and get nothing but a steady stream of clear fluid throughout the pedal depression.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3603 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 02-10-2003 09:36 PM
Hey Ernie, did you 'bench bleed' the master cylinder prior to plumbing it?------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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ekbeanctr Gearhead Posts: 431 From: Middlebury, IN USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 02-11-2003 10:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by V8 Thumper: Hey Ernie, did you 'bench bleed' the master cylinder prior to plumbing it?
NO, Does that make a difference? ------------------ Have a Wonderful Day CandyApple 65 Fastback 351W, 4 Speed Versaille 9" Rear End Global West Front End [email protected]
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 19964 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 02-11-2003 10:29 AM
Yes sir. It makes life a whole lot easier. By bench bleeding the master you eliminate the air in it.------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!" www.moneymakerracing.com
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rockafellz Gearhead Posts: 1329 From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 02-11-2003 11:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Moneymaker: Yes sir. It makes life a whole lot easier. By bench bleeding the master you eliminate the air in it.
I 3rd that notion!! You can still do it while the MC is attached to the car too. Disconnect the brake lines from the MC and attach a bench bleeding kit/hoses to the 2 outlets of the MC. Then submerge the other end of the rubber hoses into the MC fluid bowls. While holding the rubber hoses in the bowls, have someone SLOWLY pump the brake pedal at least 25 times, more if there's still air bubbles coming out. You're now ready to re-attach the brake hardlines to the MC. Atfer you re-attach the brake lines, do your standard brake bleeding on all four brakes like Alex suggests above. Erik ------------------ 1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe Dad's - Original Unrestored
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