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ekbeanctr
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posted 02-10-2003 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bled the brakes on my 65 tonight and it won't hold pressure. If I pump it up 6-7 times I get good pressure on the pedal. Release and wait a few minutes and I have to pump it up again!! It's a Stainless Steel Disc Brake setup on the front with a dual master cylinder from them. The Rear Larger chamber is hooked only to the front brakes. The Front Smaller chamber goes direct to a proportioning valve & Gauge that came with the stainless kit. Then to a Lincoln Versaille rear end with new calipers. All lines are brand new. The guy at the parts store said something about a pressure reservoir for the rear discs?? Has anybody set their car up similar? Am I missing something? Ernie

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Moneymaker
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posted 02-10-2003 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try bleeding them again Ernie.
You need two people.
Start with the right rear.
Left rear next, then right front.
Left front last. Make certain you keep your toe under the brake pedal while pumping so as not to over ride the master cylinder travel and suck air.

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ekbeanctr
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posted 02-10-2003 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did the brake bleeding with the help of a good friend of mine, BUT I never heard of holding the toe under the brake pedal, I was pushing it clear to the floor. I will try again weds night and let you know. THANKS!! Ernie

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posted 02-10-2003 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Make sure you follow my bleeding order and get nothing but a steady stream of clear fluid throughout the pedal depression.

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Alex Denysenko
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V8 Thumper
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posted 02-10-2003 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Ernie, did you 'bench bleed' the master cylinder prior to plumbing it?

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ekbeanctr
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posted 02-11-2003 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekbeanctr   Click Here to Email ekbeanctr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
Hey Ernie, did you 'bench bleed' the master cylinder prior to plumbing it?


NO, Does that make a difference?

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posted 02-11-2003 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes sir. It makes life a whole lot easier.
By bench bleeding the master you eliminate the air in it.

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rockafellz
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posted 02-11-2003 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Yes sir. It makes life a whole lot easier.
By bench bleeding the master you eliminate the air in it.


I 3rd that notion!!

You can still do it while the MC is attached to the car too. Disconnect the brake lines from the MC and attach a bench bleeding kit/hoses to the 2 outlets of the MC. Then submerge the other end of the rubber hoses into the MC fluid bowls. While holding the rubber hoses in the bowls, have someone SLOWLY pump the brake pedal at least 25 times, more if there's still air bubbles coming out. You're now ready to re-attach the brake hardlines to the MC. Atfer you re-attach the brake lines, do your standard brake bleeding on all four brakes like Alex suggests above.

Erik

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