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65racecoupe
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From: Layton UT,
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posted 01-14-2003 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65racecoupe   Click Here to Email 65racecoupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will a World Class T5 hold up behind a 400 to 430 horse 316 or 331 stroker engine?

Is it worth it to raise the transmission tunnel to fit the TKO (and is it necessary to do so)?

I have the TKO in the box, but I am able to trade if straight up for a WC T5 and a pro 5.0 shifter.

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Pierre
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posted 01-14-2003 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 65racecoupe:
[B]Will a World Class T5 hold up behind a 400 to 430 horse 316 or 331 stroker engine?

[B]


I remember the world class T5 being rated for 330ft/pound max torq, which you will definately exceed with these hp figures

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MrWesson22
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posted 01-14-2003 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Besides that, the TKO is worth a lot more money than a world class t5. Stick with the tremec.

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65racecoupe
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posted 01-14-2003 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65racecoupe   Click Here to Email 65racecoupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do any of you have either of these transmissions in a 65 - 66 coupe.

I have heard people running 10s in a 5.0 with a WC T5. I have also heard of them blowing up under a decent ammount of HP.

I am sure they can handle more than the rating, but how much.

I would love the TKO to be a straight up install, but it seems not to be.

Any Help?

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65racecoupe
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posted 01-14-2003 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65racecoupe   Click Here to Email 65racecoupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am only worried about the installation.

Has anyone raised the transmission tunnel. That is what I really think I have to do.

Otherwise, the tranny is too tall which means it hangs too low, making the engine tilt back a noticable 6 degrees and messes up the driveshaft angle.

I would love to have the TKO in my car, but I don't want to pay 2000 to put it in.

Any thoughts.

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indyphil
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posted 01-14-2003 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know much about transmissions but...
surely if they are rated for torque then Hp does not matter. A 400hp 289 engine is making its torque at higher RPM hence the higher Hp, but the peak torque is not much higher than a mild motor (300-330ftlbs).

Now when you stroke an engine that WILL increase the torque significantly. a 331 stroker might go to about 380 ft lbs?

I would have thought that the gearbox really cares about peak torque (not Hp) and how cleanly you shift it. In which case a T5z might work fine for a 302-331 inch motor. But then I am probably wrong.

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Daniel Jones
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posted 01-14-2003 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't we already discuss this once or twice? I have a TKO in my '66. No tunnel work needed with the cross-member I used. You do need to get the transmission output parallel to the rear end input. Wedge shaped shims are made to rotate the axle housing to accomplish this.

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Daniel Jones
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posted 01-14-2003 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Jones   Click Here to Email Daniel Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, I have an X-code T5 with 2.95:1
first gear. I'd gladly trade you for the Tremec TKO.

Dan Jones

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ccode67
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posted 01-15-2003 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you already have the TKO, use it.
I have a z-spec T-5 in my 67 with 351, it is holding up fine so far, the main thing with a T-5 is having a good shifter with overtravel stops adjusted correctly to prevent bending the shift forks.

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