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Topic: Starting troubles
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I65Stang
Gearhead Posts: 5956
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-13-2003 10:10 PM
   
Ok, here is what I'm getting. I go to start the '65 , the starter relay clicks and then I lose all battery power. I have to go and take one of the cables off then put it back on the battery to get the power to come back on. The insulation on the starter wire was melted due to the heat from the header but I have replaced it along with protecting it with some 2000 degree temp blanket stuff (the starter is already wrapped). Battery is fully charged. What gets me is the fact that all the power goes out after trying to start it  . If it wasnt for that I would think my starter had heat soak (even through the blanket  ). I've looked for any shorts. Thanks for any help.------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
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[This message has been edited by I65Stang (edited 01-13-2003).]
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travs69
Gearhead Posts: 122
From: Bethalto, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-13-2003 10:28 PM
Have you had your battery tested? I think a bad cell will give you correct volt reading as long as their is no load. After that it dropps like a rock.
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I65Stang
Gearhead Posts: 5956
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-13-2003 11:13 PM
Great minds think alike lol. I used a known good battery out of my 5.0 in parallel with the other battery and all I got was rapid fire clicking. Trying a jumper to the relay did the same so control side is out. I tried touching the starter wire to the + terminal and all I got was sparks so I am betting the starter is fried. Of course I have to pull the header to bench test/replace it .
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19964
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-13-2003 11:21 PM
Starter windings are shorted Tim.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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I65Stang
Gearhead Posts: 5956
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-13-2003 11:37 PM
Thats what I was thinking Alex, some sort of internal short. Great quality 9 month old starter [This message has been edited by I65Stang (edited 01-13-2003).]
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travs69
Gearhead Posts: 122
From: Bethalto, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-14-2003 12:34 AM
You have to pull you header to get the starter out! I'm glad I didn't have to do that.. I think on my first 69 I was putting a starter in every 6 months (No more autozone electronics for me!).. Of course I had to put enough extensions on my rachet that is was up against the radiator.. ;p
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I65Stang
Gearhead Posts: 5956
From: Antelope, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-16-2003 05:28 PM
Guess where this starter is from, yup, lifetime warranty Autozone pos After pulling everything apart (going to go get the new starter) all I can say is now I remember even more clearly how much of a pita this job is to do with the header . With the old manifold I could do it in about 10 minutes. Going to get some stainless steel hardware for the collectors while I have it all apart. ------------------
Tim M&M Member #35
1965 Mustang coupe, 200 I6, Holley 2300, Clifford header, true duals w/ 26" Smithys
1988 Mustang GT AOD vert, 15.810 @ 88.871 mph 100% stock w/ no traction
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 19964
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-16-2003 05:34 PM
I really hate the "rebuilt" products from the chain stores. I don't care what the warrantee is. Junk is junk!
Trak Auto had a million mile warrantee on all of their stuff and now they are gone from the Chicago market. ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00,'01,'02,&'03
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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BlueMule
Gearhead Posts: 1058
From: Kent Island, MD USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-16-2003 06:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
I really hate the "rebuilt" products from the chain stores. I don't care what the warrantee is. Junk is junk!
Trak Auto had a million mile warrantee on all of their stuff and now they are gone from the Chicago market.
gone from central MD too. now they're Advance Autoparts. (Laurel) ------------------
-Paul 70 Mach1 351C
79 Ranchero GT
97 Expedition XLT 5.4
00 SVT f150 Lightning 4149 of 4966 Born on: 06/26/2000 'life's tough... it's tougher if you're stupid.'
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fordfan
Gearhead Posts: 2981
From: Walla Walla, Wa, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-16-2003 11:41 PM
ahhh, moments like this make me love the Chevy bottom bolt Starter...  
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