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Topic: Help w/ turn signals and oil problem...
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-13-2003 01:32 PM
   
The turn sinals on my car for a couple years blinked slow. Then about 2 months ago they blinked quickly. Now they don't do anything. Any ideas as to where to start?On the oil problem, I have oil coming out my dipstick tube. I know, it sounds like a personal problem.  Anyway, I have made sure that there is not too much oil in the car. I thought it may be to the tube vibrating (was missing the bolt that goes into block) but that isn't it (replaced bolt). Help! ------------------
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BlueMule
Gearhead Posts: 1058
From: Kent Island, MD USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-13-2003 01:49 PM
Go for the turn signal flasher that applies to your application.Oil from the dipstick tube? If it's blowing out of it, there has to be a venting problem there somewhere. You didn't state the what kind of condition the engine is in as far as high-low miles, just rebuilt etc. ------------------
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-13-2003 01:52 PM
It's not a huge amount of oil. If I wipe it off, drive the car, then look, I would say about a teaspoon full. Give or take a few drops. The engine has been rebuilt, but not recently. It has about 71K on it.
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BlueMule
Gearhead Posts: 1058
From: Kent Island, MD USA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-13-2003 01:57 PM
PCV working?------------------
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Hell_Fish
Gearhead Posts: 680
From: Austin, TX.
Registered: May 2002
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posted 01-13-2003 02:16 PM
Yeah, check the PCV and the breather cap. Sounds like the oil system is building pressure and the only place it can be released is the dipstick tube.
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-13-2003 02:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hell_Fish:
Yeah, check the PCV and the breather cap. Sounds like the oil system is building pressure and the only place it can be released is the dipstick tube.
I will check both of these things again. They were working okay when I first tried to diagnose the problem. Any other thoughts?
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-16-2003 09:43 AM
PCV and breather are in check. Now what? 
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Hell_Fish
Gearhead Posts: 680
From: Austin, TX.
Registered: May 2002
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posted 01-16-2003 09:45 AM
Does your carb have good vacuum to be pulling on the PCV?------------------
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-16-2003 09:47 AM
Yes. The vacuum is excellent. Actually surprised me that it was that good on the old pony. 
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1226
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-16-2003 09:57 AM
Check your compression. Could be blowby.....?[This message has been edited by 69 Sportsroof (edited 01-16-2003).]
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 1075
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 01-16-2003 11:27 AM
Did all the bulbs work in the turn signals before it went bad? When bulbs blow it often makes the unit flash too fast, if you leave it like that It can wear out the flasher unit prematurely.I would check compression on the engine to find why its blowing oil. pull the breather off (the one on the drivers side valve cover) and put your hand on it. You should feel the vacuum there at idle.
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-16-2003 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by indyphil:
Did all the bulbs work in the turn signals before it went bad?
All bulbs worked inside and outside the car.
I will use your suggestion and check the compression again.
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-31-2003 12:51 PM
Still having these problems ------------------
Jeremy
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 34763
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-31-2003 02:05 PM
1. Did you change your flasher?2. Your PCV system checked out ok, does the dipstick fit tightly in it's tube? ------------------
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-31-2003 02:29 PM
Changed flasher.Dipstick is what I would call snug.
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69 Sportsroof
Gearhead Posts: 1226
From: Valley, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-31-2003 03:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bibbs68:
Changed flasher..
Did that correct your problem? If not, check the fuse panel for a flasher fuse. Blew mine last night replacing the emergency flasher. My 69 called for a #552 flasher for turn signals and emergency flasher. I'm not sure about a 68 but mine has two seperate flashers.
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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-31-2003 03:47 PM
Right, a turn signal and a emergency flasher.------------------
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 01-31-2003 03:49 PM
I'll give that a shot. I didn't see two but I'll look again. Also, I checked the fust which looked good but I'll replace that as well.
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RonnieT
Gearhead Posts: 685
From: Port Allen, La. 70767
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-31-2003 03:49 PM
Jeremy, Did you replace the right flasher? There is a flasher for the turnsignals and a flasher for the Hazard Lights. I have seen the wrong flacher replaced before is why i asked. Do any of the bulbs light up when you put the turnsignals on? If no bulbs light then it could be a fuse or the turn signal swith. If the bulbs light up and do not flash try swapping the Hazard flasher into this slot and see if things work. A flasher works on current draw, the higher the current draw the faster teh flasher flash. That is why when you pull a trailer the flashers blink much faster than normal. Also using a high output bulb, such as quartz bulbs, will cause them to blink rapidly. As for the oil at the dipstick tube, check the port at the base of the carb to see if it is restricted with build up, you will get a good vacuum at idle on the PCV valve, but not enough flow to keep the crankcase pressure down. ------------------
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 808
From: Kissimee, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-31-2003 10:07 PM
Check to see if you are losing oil through your valve-guides
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 18494
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-01-2003 12:15 PM
Did you check the grounds in the trunk for the lights also look at the grounds up front to be sure they are good..had a similar problem with the sons old 68..bad grounds.
sam
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 02-24-2003 09:47 AM
Well, I got the blinkers/hazards working. One of the wires was broke in the plug. How it happened I don't know. I guess all this time it had been making just enough contact to work. I must have moved it to the point it didn't make contact anymore. So, now I have blinkers/hazards , but still have the oil problem.
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carhartted
Journeyman Posts: 61
From: Fairbanks, Alaska
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 02-24-2003 02:10 PM
I would go ahead and replace the PCV valve. Sometimes they may be bad but check out OK. A new PCV valve should be fairlyin expensive.Also the breather cap may be plugged with oil since there is probably a lot of vapor in the engine. Hope this helps. Jonathan
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bibbs68
Gearhead Posts: 1142
From: Jackson, TN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 03-05-2003 05:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by carhartted:
I would go ahead and replace the PCV valve.
Also the breather cap may be plugged with oil since there is probably a lot of vapor in the engine.Jonathan
Well, I put in a new PCV and still have the problem. The breather I recently soaked in gasoline so I could repaint it. So I am going to do the wrong thing and assume that is not the problem. I'm stumped.
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 808
From: Kissimee, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 03-06-2003 08:52 AM
I had the exact same experience and frustrations with your oil problem. It turned out that the rings and the valves (guides)were so worn that the blow-by was causing the oil seepage at the dipstick. I was also getting a lot of moisture contamination from the breather on the drivers side valve cover. The regular push-in breather would become contaminated so fast that I couldn't keep it clean. I put a late-model Chrysler breather(L-231) in its place. It has a large hose connected to it to connect to the air cleaner. I just let the other end of the hose drain out underneath the car. when I rebuilt the engine, the problem vanished.
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