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Topic: Flamethrower Exhaust
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streetstang67
Gearhead Posts: 397
From: SC, USA
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 03:07 PM
   
Does anybody have a wiring diagram or know of a web site with one to wire up dual flamethrower exhuast? I know you can get kits, but I dont think it would be that hard to wire up without any of that extra stuff in the kit. Thanks
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 4377
From: Arizona
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-11-2003 03:11 PM
Got a wealthy father-in-law, or know a good bail bondsman? You'll need it  I personally don't like the idea of open flame within a few inches of 16 gallons of gasoline ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 43151
From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-11-2003 04:04 PM
I think they have that on www.idiots.com------------------
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-11-2003 07:02 PM
WHY??????????????????------------------
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everything else is just a game.
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dubstar
Gearhead Posts: 423
From: Long Beach, Ca 1966 A-Code Coupe
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 08:58 PM
i think its a cool idea, but its more of a greaser thing. But I heard if you drill a hole in each pipe same spot on each side, and you screw sparkplugs in them, hook up a wire to each and set a switch inside your car, and hook up the other side to your battery, or alt. you can get flames. but you need to run lots of octain.be careful, this is just what i have HEARD. Not sure if it works, but if you try it, let us know.  Goodluck. ------------------
Alan
1966 Tahoe Turquoise A-Code Coupe
650cfm Holley 4bbl / petronix ignition / missing valance
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 901
From: Kissimee, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 09:04 PM
This 'fad' kinda' belongs to the 50's lead-sled crowd.
Be forewarned: You must rev the livin' daylights out of your engine so a bunch of raw gas will be dumped into the exhaust stream, and when you ignite it it burns. Your exhaust system will get extremely overheated with only a tiny bit of use. The heat can migrate back to your engine and the back-side of the exhaust valves, which is definately not a good thing.
Plus, all that raw gas washing down the inside of your engine aint real good for the internals either!
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capri man
Gearhead Posts: 6417
From: doerun, ga.
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-11-2003 09:44 PM
dubstar, you aint gonna get a spark out of a plug with 12 volts!!------------------
mike r
racing is real
everything else is just a game.
81 capri-7.51 @89mph 1/8
1.54 60 ft.
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68F100
Gearhead Posts: 2377
From: Fort Madison, Iowa USA - United We Stand
Registered: Oct 99
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posted 01-11-2003 09:53 PM
A buddy of mine in HS had an easier cheaper  way for flamethrower exhaust. His timing was off pretty bad and he had a couple of cracked pistons. He could rev it up and shoot flames.I'd seriously reconsider this flamethrower thing. It's just not safe and you'd probably be pretty ticked if you burnt your Stang to the ground. Or worse.
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Red65
Gearhead Posts: 115
From: Northglenn, CO, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 01-11-2003 10:28 PM
You probably want to talk to some South Africans for the latest in automotive flamethrower technology. I heard about this option for cars in South Africa during a trip there last year. Unfortunately they do it because they need to prevent car-jackings, not because it's "cool." The crime there is really bad. Here's a link to a CNN article on it.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 2398
From: Senoia, G.A. USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 01:10 PM
I think dubstar was on the right track, but it also involves a 2nd coil and switch in the cab, you wire the switch so provides 12 volts to the coil. to makes flames, switch on the exhaust coil, rev up the engine, at full revs turn off the igntion and when its about spooled down turn off the voltage to the coil with the switch. Just like the engine igntion only you use the switch in the cab as your "points". Not sure what to do for a dual system, maybe installing one plug in the H pipe works, or maybe two coils. I dont have any experience in this you understand, im just repeating what other people have told me. Im sure it very illegal on the street but many street rods have this fitted for shows, cruises etc.. I think the fact that the gas cap is back there in the middle should be a warning to mustangers wanting to do this. especially if you have a pop open gas cap like me.
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 25883
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-12-2003 01:22 PM
I think that they are seriously cool  !
You need two coils,one for each spark plug, some secondary wire and a by pass switch. It' really pretty easy and cheap. There are drawbacks and dangers so beware.I'm going to pick up some older clam just to put some on.
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-12-2003 02:47 PM
I had em' on the mustang back in high school. I forget exactly how I wired it, but when you pushed the button, the (+) side of the coil was grounded out, and power was sent to a second coil in the trunk... To this coil, I had plain ole' wire stuffed into the coil wire hole that ran to spark plugs in the tailpipes.To activate, you just come up to speed, push the button (which allowed raw fuel to flow into the exhaust system, since the ignition was disabled) and the tailpipe plugs would ignite this fuel on it's way out. It shot out 3ft+ flames, and made quite a bit of noise! As a teenager, I thought it was the coolest thing on earth! ....along with 1-7/8" exhaust and glasspacks. Double pumpers are GREAT for sending maximum fuel to the fire.  This system doesn't work with catalytic converters, since the converter burns the fuel before it gets to the sparkplugs in the tailpipes. That same button is still mounted under the dash, and is now used for the nitrous purge. (The mustang doesn't have tailpipes anymore) A friend of mine mounted fuel injectors in his tailpipes recently, and his truck shoots some SERIOUS fire. His will catch the pavement of fire! ...and you don't have to rev it up and pump the gas pedal like I did with my car. Have Fun! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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bill haab
Gearhead Posts: 441
From: south bend in.
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-12-2003 06:24 PM
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-12-2003 08:21 PM
Well, all you've got to do... is turn on the plugs in the tailpipe, and turn off the ignition. This will allow unburnt fuel to be pumped through the engine, to be burnt by the tailpipes.The cheapest and easiest way to do this would involve a 3-way switch. The wire that runs to the (+) side of the coil would be run to the switch. One side of the switch would then be lead to the engine coil, the other to the coil(s) in the trunk for the fire. When the fire needs activated, toggle the switch to 'fire' and the ignition shuts off, and the tailpipe plugs begin to fire. While the 'fire' is activated, pump the gas pedal like mad to send as much fuel to the tailpipes as possible. Double pumpers (with their two accelarator pumps) work great! You can use a couple relays to set up a pushbutton setup, but the 3-way switch is really easy and cheap. It can also be moved to the middle position to disable both coils. (theft prevention) If you're going to use fuel injection or converters, you'll need an external fuel source, (such as extra fuel injectors in the tailpipes or propane) Just beware, this can produce HUGE balls of fire. Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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jsracingbbf
Gearhead Posts: 2751
From: Batesville,MS. , U.S.A.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 01-13-2003 12:09 AM
Would it be OK if I took insurance out on you? Another way you could do this--- install zoomies on your car and then mix 90% Nitromethane with 10% methanol for fuel. It would have the added benifit of making your car seem like it was on Nitrous Caution this may only work once though.
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70 Mustang retired former footbrake car
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1542
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-13-2003 02:11 AM
Actually, on TNN this morning, "Trucks" had a story on installing this very thing. Personally, it seems kinda silly, in a "ricer" way. I`ve never really been big on doing things that don`t really serve any practical function. Kinda like fake 6:71 blowers, or wheelie bars & parachutes on cars that don`t need em.------------------
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65Acode
Journeyman Posts: 81
From: Houston,TX
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 01-13-2003 10:41 AM
Mike,When you install the coil in the trunk, just dont screw it into the floor i mean GAS TANK. This could very well contend for the Darwin Award '03 Nick [This message has been edited by 65Acode (edited 01-13-2003).]
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n2oMike
Gearhead Posts: 2419
From: Spencer, WV
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-13-2003 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by 65Acode:
When you install the coil in the trunk, just dont screw it into the floor i mean GAS TANK. This could very well contend for the Darwin Award '03
Yea, considering the floor of the trunk IS the gas tank. Back in the day (high school mid 80's) I had the coil just laying loose behind the rear seat with two plain wires stuffed down into the tower than ran to a couple old spark plugs from my dad's 34' Ford Phaeton. ...which he still has, but hasn't touched in years. For a 16 year old, it was really cool! I wouldn't tell anyone else how to do it, either... So my car was the only one in town with that 'feature'. Nowadays, I'd probably mount things more securely, and maybe use two coils and real spark plug wires. 18mm (big thread) spark plugs, like came in old fords and mustangs screw into oxygen sensor bungs perfectly... and those bungs are available at auto parts stores. (I just had mine roughly screwed into holes I drilled into the tailpipe) Good Luck! ------------------
Mike Burch
66 mustang real street
302 4-speed 289 heads
10.63 @ 129.3
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
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posted 01-13-2003 05:17 PM
Yeah, but flames coming out of your tail pipes on an old sled while cruising is still pretty cool. ------------------
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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
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posted 01-13-2003 05:30 PM
About as cool as highwater pants... ------------------
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