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66bluefb
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From: Okla.City,Okla.
Registered: May 2002

posted 12-29-2002 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am looking to replace my 4 core radiator in my 66 stang.I have a 86-302 in it now with a 289 water pump so my hoses will line up. I will change my water pump to a 302 so I need a radiator with the bottom outlet on the drivers side. Will a bigger radiator off another car fit? Has anyone used a different one? Ever since I put the 302 in my car it has ran warmer than it did with the 289 so I`m looking for a better way to cool my motor and be able to use my timing marks.Thanks,Tony

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http://ourworld.cs.com/blagintony/myhomepage/auto.html
86-302 HO bored .030 over crank .010 under
B-303 cam ,harland sharp roller rockers
performer rpm intake, 625 carter
66-289 heads, ported with 160-194 valves, 3 angle valve job
4 speed toploader
pony seats

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V8 Thumper
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From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 12-29-2002 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Click on my sig below and you can see a Tony Smith aluminum radiator in my car. He dosen't exactally give those things away, but it cools my stroker (damn near 400 hp ) just fine. In fact, when the ambient temp is much lower than 55, I've got to block the rad off with a piece of cardboard just to get some heat in the motor.

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html

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66bluefb
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From: Okla.City,Okla.
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posted 12-29-2002 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd, I see you have updated your pics and that motor is impressive looking, in fact your whole car is impressive. If I can`t find a radiator in the 200.00 - 300.00 range I will look into yours but I`m sure that your radiator cost close to 500.00 didn't it?

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http://ourworld.cs.com/blagintony/myhomepage/auto.html
86-302 HO bored .030 over crank .010 under
B-303 cam ,harland sharp roller rockers
performer rpm intake, 625 carter
66-289 heads, ported with 160-194 valves, 3 angle valve job
4 speed toploader
pony seats

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V8 Thumper
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From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 12-29-2002 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and then some

I see it this way~ a high dollar motor is worthless junk when cooked. It was cheap insurance, all things concidered

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html

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bifs66
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posted 12-29-2002 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bifs66   Click Here to Email bifs66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I installed a Howe aluminum radiator purchased from Crites along with their installation kit in the 66 Fastback. IIRC, it was less than $300 total and no cutting to the original radiator support was necessary. I opted for the lower hose to be on the driver's side so it would be crossflow. To match things up, I used a 1970 water pump. Surprisingly, both upper and lower stock concours radiator hoses fit perfectly, even though the lower hose was on the other side than stock. If you want, I could e-mail you more details and a pic.

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Bernie Frank
66 Fastback restomod project
85 GT (preserved)
82 GT (original)

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-29-2002 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked Alex the same question, he put it to me this way:

"If you've got a $200 motor, then get a $200 radiator"

Made sense to me

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2002 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10-4 Todd
If I do an engine with installation for a customer and he wants to skimp on a radiator or provide his own, all warrantees are off.
Been there and done that too many times.

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Alex Denysenko
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66bluefb
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posted 12-29-2002 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex and Todd, I do appreciate the wisdom that you both have and I`m not trying to be like Brandon I hope, its just that if I can do it cheaper that's what I need to do. I live pay check to pay check and last year when I built my motor I went over budget by 1,000 dollars and I`m still trying to recover from that. I tell my wife that the car is an investment and she agrees but I just can`t afford to spend that kind of money right now especially after Xmas. When I put my motor in this summer I knocked a hole in it and had it plugged so I know its not as efficient as it was.
Bifs66,Yes I would like more information on your radiator. Does it cool better than your old one?Thanks,Tony

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http://ourworld.cs.com/blagintony/myhomepage/auto.html
86-302 HO bored .030 over crank .010 under
B-303 cam ,harland sharp roller rockers
performer rpm intake, 625 carter
66-289 heads, ported with 160-194 valves, 3 angle valve job
4 speed toploader
pony seats

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mstngjoe
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From: Oregon
Registered: Aug 2002

posted 12-29-2002 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mstngjoe   Click Here to Email mstngjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I picked up this radiator a couple of months ago for my 331 project. It's a "Northern" and made in the USA. Two people I know run this same radiator in their '65s with good results. Under $300 from a local dealer here in the Portland area.

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My Mustang
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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2002 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwwe phooey!

It doesn't have to be a Smith's, but it really needs to be a high quality AMERICAN made product.

Or......

Maybe you guys can look into some of those high quality Taiwaneese radiators that the discount Mustang joints sell.
I've seen those as cheap as $119.95

Better yet, I heard about some guy getting a Honda Civic radiator out of a junk yard and then cutting off the necks and then using Superduper Kriptonite Glue to reinstall the them. He had enough money left over to buy some of that real cool slip on simulated hose braid stuff and a blue air filter.

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com

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V8 Thumper
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posted 12-29-2002 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Tony, I know all about the 'after Christmas' belt being tight

As far as the car being an investment, I agree 100%. That's one reason it took me four years to get my car back on the road; two years for the motor alone. I don't hardly have cash falling out my a**, I just stash it when I can and be patient. My motor wound up alot meaner than I'd originally planned , but hey... whadda ya gonna do? Another reason why it took so long... the 'level' of performance dictated the level/quality of support components (cooling being one of them). My point is, there's no sense doing it half way at this point. You've got one sweet car, top notch

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html

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66bluefb
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From: Okla.City,Okla.
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posted 12-29-2002 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Todd, I will consider what you and Alex have told me.I am just exploring what is out there and what people have to say about radiators. I have 5 months till it gets hot here in Okla. so I can just start saving my pennies. Tony

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-29-2002 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hell Tony, you'll be getting more snow soon anyway so you may never need a radiator.

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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator

NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver
MCA member# 53321
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl

Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
www.moneymakerracing.com

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66bluefb
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posted 12-29-2002 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t know about the snow.The last EL Nino or what ever it is that is screwing up our weather made it hotter than hell the next summer We had something like 100 degress or hotter for like 25 days in a row.

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