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Red65
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posted 12-22-2002 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the new roller lifters, then soak them in oil before installing with assembly lube. Or can I just soak them in oil without the solvent wash? The instructions (CompCams) say to wash the lifters first, but I haven't heard anyone doing that.

If I do need to wash them, can I just let them soak in carb cleaner, blow them dry, then oil bath?

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Moneymaker
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posted 12-22-2002 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, wash them NEW solvent or carb cleaner, blow dry them lightly, then soak them in a container of oil for a couple of hours.
This is the way I have been doing it for almost 30 years since I got my first roller cam in 1973.
Never had a wear out failure yet with almost every American brand offered.

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Red65
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posted 12-22-2002 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Red65   Click Here to Email Red65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!!!

BTW, I know you like the 270S, and to some extent, 270H. What's your take on a 284HR?

I'm planning to rev-limit at 6000 rpm on a stock bottom end. A computer simulation suggests that this combo may peak near 6500 though. Think a stock bottom can handle those rev's?

289 bored .030 over.
Calculated 9.2:1 compression ratio
Edelbrock Performer RPM (not Air Gap)
Edelbrock al heads (1.90 intake)
Comp Cam 284HR retro-roller cam & lifter
Comp Cam roller rockers
Holley Street Avenger (670 CFM) or
Autolite 4100 (needs to be rebuilt)
Tri-Y headers
Toploader 4-speed
8" Equalok (don't remember the ratio)

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posted 12-23-2002 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stock bottom end will handle 6500 fine.

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soaring
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posted 12-23-2002 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soaring   Click Here to Email soaring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on how it was packaged, but most likely a femaldahyde (sp) waxy substance was put on them for shipping and long range storage. That crap needs to come off first before you soak it in oil for several hours. So use carb cleaner, etc. to get them super clean.

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posted 12-23-2002 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soaring:
It depends on how it was packaged, but most likely a femaldahyde (sp) waxy substance

You mean cosmoline. Formaldehyde is embalming fluid.

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With engine parts, always assume they are filthy even if they just came out of the box. Engine assembly should be as clean as surgery.

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69stanger
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posted 12-23-2002 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69stanger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Yes, wash them NEW solvent or carb cleaner, blow dry them lightly, then soak them in a container of oil for a couple of hours.
This is the way I have been doing it for almost 30 years since I got my first roller cam in 1973.
Never had a wear out failure yet with almost every American brand offered.



is this process also used for hydralic lifters?

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posted 12-23-2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do it with ALL new lifters.

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Alex Denysenko
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soaring
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posted 12-23-2002 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soaring   Click Here to Email soaring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Man, I am really redfaced. Of course it's Cosmoline and not femaldahyde. I must have had one of those senior moments.

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