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69 Sportsroof
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posted 12-14-2002 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I've got my dash out, isn't there some wire or something that I have to remove or change that will allow my ammeter to work? Right now it just stays in the middle all the time.

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Pierre
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posted 12-14-2002 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 69 Sportsroof:
While I've got my dash out, isn't there some wire or something that I have to remove or change that will allow my ammeter to work? Right now it just stays in the middle all the time.


I discovered on my 67 that it stays in the middle because it is factory disconnected and that you only connect it for testing purposes (if it was on all the time it would burn). To connect it, you have to find the connector on the battery side of the relay that has 2 wires tied together to a single loop. When you disconnect this loop you re-route the current through the ammeter. Have someone check the needle when you do that, if intensity is too high you will destroy it ! Don't forget to connect it back when you are done

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 12-14-2002 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, my ammeter is useless? They why put one in? Where is this loop located? I found one under the hood but it's in the harnes going to the rear lights. Is it behind the dash?

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Mpcoluv
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posted 12-14-2002 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv   Click Here to Email Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ammeter works fine on my '69 coupe.It goes to the left when the engine is not running.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-14-2002 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, they work. You can see them go back and forth with the turn signals on, or go down when you turn the lights on. If yours are disconnected, Pierre, someone disconnected them.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 12-14-2002 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do I just need to plug it in somewhere?

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mustang68mustangs
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posted 12-14-2002 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustang68mustangs   Click Here to Email mustang68mustangs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definately agree with Steve on this one!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-14-2002 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have a wiring diagram? Should be easy to trace.

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 12-14-2002 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Do you have a wiring diagram?

Only what's in my Hayne's manual. Like that's gonna help... I'll give it a go tomorrow.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 12-15-2002 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
None of my 69 or 70 Mustangs that had the ammeter had much needle movement, even when my first 70 was still fairly new. Unlike my old 65 Valiant, that thing swung side to side so much with the turn signals on, I though the needle would come flying out of the dash!

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Pierre
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posted 12-15-2002 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
No, they work. You can see them go back and forth with the turn signals on, or go down when you turn the lights on. If yours are disconnected, Pierre, someone disconnected them.



All my apologies then
I based my assumptions on the 2" thick Ford shop manual (blue cover for 67) page 13-2 Fig.2 The diagram clearly shows a "shunt type ammeter" and after looking & testing for a few hours that's the conclusion I came to. Especially that the electrical looks authentic
But the following description in the paragraph at the bottom of 13-2 kind of puzzled and did not confirm my theory

Can someone tell me where the Red & yellow wires at the back of my gauge (connected to it in my case) should go too respectively (exact physical location) ?
thanks in advance

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 12-15-2002 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rory McNeil:
None of my 69 or 70 Mustangs that had the ammeter had much needle movement

Mine has no movement at all. It stays dead center all the time.

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stock69
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posted 12-15-2002 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stock69   Click Here to Email stock69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i was wondering about that too. my 69 coupes anmeter stays dead center all the time also.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-16-2002 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish my Mach was together go I could look. I know my '72 works great, as did my '71 Cougar.

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BlueMule
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posted 12-16-2002 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueMule   Click Here to Email BlueMule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine in the '70 Mach1 moves. Not like an old Chrysler ammeter, but it does move.

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indyphil
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posted 12-16-2002 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my 68 ammeter stays dead center
the haynes manual doesnt help me much. I also have a 2" 67 blue shop manual I may look in it tonight and see what it says.

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