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T5owner
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posted 12-05-2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T5owner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guess, most have seen the so-called spy shots from Auto Week.
Sean S. was kind enough to make them crispier for your eyes - now on my News site
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 12-05-2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks much better than the pics I saw! How accurate is this pic?

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John Z
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posted 12-09-2002 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Z   Click Here to Email John Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks kinda chopped up to me. May be the full scale will look better. To me the beauty of the classics was the simplicity.

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HHuggins
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posted 12-09-2002 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HHuggins   Click Here to Email HHuggins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI - this is a fan mock-up, not something from Ford.

HH

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T5owner
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posted 12-11-2002 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T5owner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is more than a fan mock-up, it could be one of Ford's "Better ideas"

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lyle29464
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From: Mt. Pleasant S.C.
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posted 12-11-2002 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lyle29464   Click Here to Email lyle29464     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just can not get used to the skinny tires.
anyone else dislike them?

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johnmustang
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posted 12-11-2002 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like the looks of the 2005 , if that is truly what it is going to look like. A little bit of retro and alot of new technology , very

JOHN

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dubstar
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From: Long Beach, Ca 1966 A-Code Coupe
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posted 12-11-2002 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubstar   Click Here to Email dubstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think they look terrible.

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rockafellz
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posted 12-11-2002 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally think they should remake the OLD bodies EXACTLY to SPEC and modernize the suspension and drivetrain.

I would be willing to bet big bucks that it would bring in A LOT of sales.

Imagine a '66 fastback or a '69 Mach1 having the body rebuilt exactly to SPECS and having a late model drivetrain and powertrain. It seems like FORD wants to achieve a retro look more and more. Why don't they just totally re-introduce the bodies with modernized parts?

What do you think? Sort of like Michael Jordan re-releasing his old shoes from the late 80's, which he is doing now.

Erik

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Hell_Fish
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posted 12-11-2002 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hell_Fish   Click Here to Email Hell_Fish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kind of like the GT-40?

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indyphil
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posted 12-11-2002 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if you re-introduce a body style which one do you go with?

the 67-68 fastback is very very popular in the movies. the 65-66 is popular with the purists, the 69 epitomises the muslecar era to me. They are all close together you could do some kind of hybrid using features from 65 to 73.

They would probably lose a lot of the chrome that they used to have, but you could do a decent copy of it. Im not a big fan of the new T-bird, they would need to do better than that in MHO.

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rockafellz
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posted 12-11-2002 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indyphil, that's exactly what i'm talking about. Rather than "half-*** " the new t-bird, bring the body back COMPLETELY!!

Here's my take on what would happen if they RE-released the "old ones".

'65-'66 Coupe = Would sell like hotcakes being that there purists, teenagers, gearheads, grrls, guys of all ages would buy it.

'65-'66 Fastback & Convertibles = Would sell even HOTTER

'67-68 Fastbacks = Would sell just as HOT as it's older brother

'69-70 Machs = Like you said, PURE MUSCLE ERA!! 'nuff said!!

Just me... Would probably never happen, but who knows, maybe Bill Ford will check out this thread and hire me. j/k

Erik

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Boss302
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posted 12-11-2002 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boss302   Click Here to Email Boss302     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they look kick azz

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aGreenAgent
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From: Orange County, CA
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posted 12-12-2002 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aGreenAgent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If they make the body EXACTLY the same, it would not meet safety codes, which is the reason they don't do this. I talked to someone at Ford about this.

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rockafellz
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posted 12-12-2002 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rockafellz   Click Here to Email rockafellz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I assume the safety codes you are referring to are the airbags, sensors, seatbelts, etc.

If that's the case, they should rework everything except the exterior appearance of the body. IMO, you would be able to distinguish the classic to the modernized version, thus adding more value to the classic and allowing others to purchase "safe" retro versions.

It would all depend on the creativity of Ford. But I see it being a "win-win" situation for Ford/Customers/Collectors.

I may be taking this imagination thing too far, but it's fun to think about "what could be"

Erik

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dubstar
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posted 12-12-2002 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubstar   Click Here to Email dubstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hate the idea or not, if we're using our imagination, then i want the SUPER BIRD BACK!! THE ROAD RUNNER LOGO AND ALL!! those are so sweet!


ps: lyle, the skinny tires are to allow bigger rims, apparantly the person who made these pictures want to "have some phat rims cuh, you know, bling-blingin and shyt"

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Hell_Fish
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posted 12-12-2002 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hell_Fish   Click Here to Email Hell_Fish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry dubstar, can't happen. Plymouth is dead.

Personally, I like the retro cars like the PT cruiser, Prowler, T-bird, and even that new Chevy pick-up. I wouldn't want to see a new car that look exactly like the original. We didn't get lots of great styling in the Mustangs from everything looking like the 1964 model.

Dustin C
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cobravenom71
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posted 12-12-2002 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cobravenom71   Click Here to Email cobravenom71     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Totally correct on the safety issue. With all differences in safety and economy regulations, plus for financial reasons, They would never be able to 'rerelease' a modern car with the 100% appearance of a 60's or 70's car.
There have been literally millions of federally mandated changes that would make it a financial impossibility.
Plus, from a a marketing standpoint, it would be like Ford saying that they can't come up with anything more desirable than a 35+ years old design! Not good for thier advertising, I imagine.
Pre-production 'spy-shots' and proto-types never look completely like the released product, so if these are indeed accurate early styling directions, I'm positive Ford will keep 'tweaking' the design and clean up the styling.
Plus, an 'original' is always better, no matter how much technology or what the good intentions are! Think of these examples:
the rock group KISS- almost EXACTLY the same as in the 70's!Even better production values...and nowhere near as good.
Star Trek- NONE of the subsequent offerings were anywhere close to the original-even with the original cast!
Star Wars-the new ones just suck!
Mission Impossible?- Not even close.
Almost ALL 'repops' for our very own cars?-sometimes thier 'better', but they are almost never as 'good' as the original, even when they come from the same suppliers!
How about the Beatle's reissued masters?- I still think the originals sound the best.
And what about the...... I think my keeper is coming, so I gotta' go now. See ya'!

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