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T5owner
Gearhead Posts: 641
From: Germany
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 12-05-2002 05:43 PM
  
Guess, most have seen the so-called spy shots from Auto Week.
Sean S. was kind enough to make them crispier for your eyes - now on my News site
here
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SteveLaRiviere
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From: Saco, Maine
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-05-2002 06:02 PM
That looks much better than the pics I saw! How accurate is this pic?------------------
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John Z
Gearhead Posts: 345
From: Morgantown, WV
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 12-09-2002 05:53 PM
Looks kinda chopped up to me. May be the full scale will look better. To me the beauty of the classics was the simplicity.
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HHuggins
Gearhead Posts: 184
From: Laguna Niguel, CA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-09-2002 06:16 PM
FYI - this is a fan mock-up, not something from Ford.HH ------------------
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T5owner
Gearhead Posts: 641
From: Germany
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 12-11-2002 12:30 AM
It is more than a fan mock-up, it could be one of Ford's "Better ideas" 
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lyle29464
Gearhead Posts: 870
From: Mt. Pleasant S.C.
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-11-2002 12:56 AM
I just can not get used to the skinny tires.
anyone else dislike them?------------------
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 5144
From: British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-11-2002 01:02 AM
I really like the looks of the 2005 , if that is truly what it is going to look like. A little bit of retro and alot of new technology , very  JOHN ------------------
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dubstar
Gearhead Posts: 423
From: Long Beach, Ca 1966 A-Code Coupe
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 12-11-2002 03:51 AM
i think they look terrible.------------------
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1347
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-11-2002 12:08 PM
I personally think they should remake the OLD bodies EXACTLY to SPEC and modernize the suspension and drivetrain.I would be willing to bet big bucks that it would bring in A LOT of sales. Imagine a '66 fastback or a '69 Mach1 having the body rebuilt exactly to SPECS and having a late model drivetrain and powertrain. It seems like FORD wants to achieve a retro look more and more. Why don't they just totally re-introduce the bodies with modernized parts? What do you think? Sort of like Michael Jordan re-releasing his old shoes from the late 80's, which he is doing now. Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored [This message has been edited by rockafellz (edited 12-11-2002).]
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Hell_Fish
Gearhead Posts: 712
From: Austin, TX.
Registered: May 2002
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posted 12-11-2002 12:12 PM
Kind of like the GT-40?
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 1365
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 12-11-2002 01:52 PM
So if you re-introduce a body style which one do you go with?the 67-68 fastback is very very popular in the movies. the 65-66 is popular with the purists, the 69 epitomises the muslecar era to me. They are all close together you could do some kind of hybrid using features from 65 to 73. They would probably lose a lot of the chrome that they used to have, but you could do a decent copy of it. Im not a big fan of the new T-bird, they would need to do better than that in MHO. ------------------
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1347
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-11-2002 06:45 PM
Indyphil, that's exactly what i'm talking about. Rather than "half-*** " the new t-bird, bring the body back COMPLETELY!!Here's my take on what would happen if they RE-released the "old ones". '65-'66 Coupe = Would sell like hotcakes being that there purists, teenagers, gearheads, grrls, guys of all ages would buy it. '65-'66 Fastback & Convertibles = Would sell even HOTTER '67-68 Fastbacks = Would sell just as HOT as it's older brother '69-70 Machs = Like you said, PURE MUSCLE ERA!! 'nuff said!! Just me... Would probably never happen, but who knows, maybe Bill Ford will check out this thread and hire me.  j/k Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
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Boss302
Gearhead Posts: 841
From: Coleman, Wisconsin
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 12-11-2002 09:25 PM
I think they look kick azz  ------------------
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aGreenAgent
Gearhead Posts: 142
From: Orange County, CA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 01:16 AM
If they make the body EXACTLY the same, it would not meet safety codes, which is the reason they don't do this. I talked to someone at Ford about this.
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rockafellz
Gearhead Posts: 1347
From: San Lorenzo, CA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-12-2002 02:12 AM
I assume the safety codes you are referring to are the airbags, sensors, seatbelts, etc.If that's the case, they should rework everything except the exterior appearance of the body. IMO, you would be able to distinguish the classic to the modernized version, thus adding more value to the classic and allowing others to purchase "safe" retro versions. It would all depend on the creativity of Ford. But I see it being a "win-win" situation for Ford/Customers/Collectors. I may be taking this imagination thing too far, but it's fun to think about "what could be" Erik ------------------
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2
Mine - Restomod in Progress 1966 Ford Mustang Coupe
Dad's - Original Unrestored
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dubstar
Gearhead Posts: 423
From: Long Beach, Ca 1966 A-Code Coupe
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 02:35 AM
hate the idea or not, if we're using our imagination, then i want the SUPER BIRD BACK!! THE ROAD RUNNER LOGO AND ALL!! those are so sweet!
ps: lyle, the skinny tires are to allow bigger rims, apparantly the person who made these pictures want to "have some phat rims cuh, you know, bling-blingin and shyt"
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Hell_Fish
Gearhead Posts: 712
From: Austin, TX.
Registered: May 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 11:16 AM
Sorry dubstar, can't happen. Plymouth is dead.  Personally, I like the retro cars like the PT cruiser, Prowler, T-bird, and even that new Chevy pick-up. I wouldn't want to see a new car that look exactly like the original. We didn't get lots of great styling in the Mustangs from everything looking like the 1964 model. Dustin C
"The Mopar guy"
1969 Mustang coupe
1956 F-100
1965 Barracuda
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cobravenom71
Gearhead Posts: 831
From: Kissimee, Fl USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 12-12-2002 03:44 PM
Totally correct on the safety issue. With all differences in safety and economy regulations, plus for financial reasons, They would never be able to 'rerelease' a modern car with the 100% appearance of a 60's or 70's car.
There have been literally millions of federally mandated changes that would make it a financial impossibility.
Plus, from a a marketing standpoint, it would be like Ford saying that they can't come up with anything more desirable than a 35+ years old design! Not good for thier advertising, I imagine.
Pre-production 'spy-shots' and proto-types never look completely like the released product, so if these are indeed accurate early styling directions, I'm positive Ford will keep 'tweaking' the design and clean up the styling.
Plus, an 'original' is always better, no matter how much technology or what the good intentions are! Think of these examples:
the rock group KISS- almost EXACTLY the same as in the 70's!Even better production values...and nowhere near as good.
Star Trek- NONE of the subsequent offerings were anywhere close to the original-even with the original cast!
Star Wars-the new ones just suck!
Mission Impossible?- Not even close.
Almost ALL 'repops' for our very own cars?-sometimes thier 'better', but they are almost never as 'good' as the original, even when they come from the same suppliers!
How about the Beatle's reissued masters?- I still think the originals sound the best.
And what about the...... I think my keeper is coming, so I gotta' go now. See ya'! ------------------
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