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soaring
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From: New Mexico
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posted 11-18-2002 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soaring   Click Here to Email soaring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I have a 1965 with the original 289 V8 with a 3 speed standard tranny.
How do I get this car to a performance model? Do I need to change the engine and tranny and differential? Please post ....

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indyphil
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posted 11-18-2002 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the three speed tranny... is that automatic or manual? When people say three speed they usually mean manual. We call automatics by their other names like C-4 or cruise-o-matic.

Anyway before embarking on any performance enhancements you will need to decide what its going to be used for, how wild you want to build it? If you explain what your car has in it already people here will have lots of advice on what to do!

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mustangboy
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posted 11-18-2002 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can keep the 289.You can make 300 hp pretty easily and still be a nice streetable engine.I would swap the 3 speed stick for a 4 speed, or even a 5 speed if your not going to go crazy with hp.Maybe change your rearend gears to something in the 3.50-3.70 range and your done.It all really depends how fast you want to go.At least your starting with a good base,it coulda been a six

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mustangs68
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From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
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posted 11-18-2002 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where's what we done to our '68 289

http://www.geocities.com/mustangs68.geo/reb-fb.html
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MrWesson22
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posted 11-19-2002 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrWesson22   Click Here to Email MrWesson22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indyphil,
3 speed standard means manual. Anytime someone calls it a standard, it's a stick.

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69 Gulfstream Aqua Grande
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soaring
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posted 11-19-2002 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soaring   Click Here to Email soaring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys...I guess asll I need to do is bore and stroke the 289. Then, what am I look for for carburetation, ignition, etc, The one post was very interesting and informative. I need a fast street car. I have no intention of racing it.
The tranny is a 3 speed floor shift stick standard tranny----a side loader. The differential is the stock one that is factory specs. I don't even know the numbers.
I just got through with a complete body restoration, and now am considering making the tires smoke in all 4 gears.
thanks for all the help and advice.

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soaring
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posted 11-19-2002 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soaring   Click Here to Email soaring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Sam.....I printed out all your specs. Man, you really like Mustangs dono't you? lol I'll research all this and see if I can afford it all. Looks like a really nice set-up. Can you tell me what it has cost you sofar, other than the price of the original car? [email protected]

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mustangs68
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posted 11-19-2002 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The cost of the parts can be found by looking in the Summit Catallog as all my Parts came form them..something like $2000+/-

Not being the best "Shadetree mechanic" I had a Shop here local do the work and that ran,with all the machine work,detail engine bay plus they did a bumper to bumper inspection appox,another $2000 total.

The C4 work was somewhere in the Area of $300 labor (local Tranny Shop)for the rebuild plus parts as I wanted the TCI stuff installed and ordered them myself.
Like it yes..but I'm at the point where the body work is next..

Yea We have had a Mustang or Two and I promise there will always be one in the yard.

As for the orginal cost of the '68 I paid $5000 for it back in Fall of 1995 and plan to spend another "Five Gallon Bucket" of money on it sooner or later
sam

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Lennie_21
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posted 11-19-2002 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lennie_21   Click Here to Email Lennie_21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soaring,

It sounds to me like you're on your way to doing what I'm in the middle of doing myself. I bought a 68 6 banger and here's what I've done with mine so far.

Changed from 8" rear end to 9" rear end with 3.89 gears and mini spooler
Changed from 4 leaf sagging springs to 5 leaf stiff springs
New KYB Rear shocks
Rear Sway Bar
Traction Bars
Sub Frame Connectors
Changes from 4 lug drum brakes to 5 lug disk brakes
New KYB Front shocks
Front Sway Bar
Export Braces
Monte Carlo Bar

Started with a 289 and added the following goodies from the bottom up

Polished crankshaft - original
Eagle I beam Connecting Rods
Manley 10.5:1 .030 over pistons
Melling High Volume Oil Pump
Moroso 8 qt Oil Pan
Windage Tray
Childs and Alberts Rings and bearings
351 Windsor Heads (pre 1974...bigger valves) with Stainless Steel Valves and Hardened Valve Seats
Heads Ported and Polished on Intake and Exhaust
1 5/8" Full Length Ceramic Coated Headers
Comp Cam .533 lift Hydraulic Roller Cam
Roller Lifters and 1.6 Roller Rockers
Chromoly Push Rods
Comp Cam Hi Tech Timing Chain Set
Vibratech Damper
Holley High Volume Fuel Pump
FORD C9x0 9424 - 180 degree Hi Rise Dual Plane Intake
Large Oval Aluminum Finned Ford Breather
Holley 650 DP Carb
MSD Billet Dsitributor
MSD 6AL Ignition
ARP Bolts from top/bottom front/back of engine
Aluminum Finned "Powered By Ford" Valve Covers w/K&N Breathers
Ford Racing Underdrive Pulley Set
Serpentine Drive Setup
TRW High Volume Water Pump

This will all get glued together and fit up to a T-5 with a Zoom Cluch and Pressure Plate and hopefully be stuffed into the engine bay by the end of the year.

It's only taken me about 5 years to get this far along.......lol
ONE DAY SOON IN THE NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE I HOPE...........

I think I'll get personalized license plates that say............."Finally"

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71RESTO
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From: Oregon, USA
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posted 11-19-2002 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 71RESTO   Click Here to Email 71RESTO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alex (Moneymaker) made a thread earlier in the spring about getting 300hp out of a 289 for $1500 (including machine work). Maybe Alex or Steve L still has a link to that thread to help you out. It's probably the way I'll go for my daughter's '66 until she's done with college.

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73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed)
66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's)
89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's)
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