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Topic: 289 wimp to muscle
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soaring
Gearhead Posts: 116
From: New Mexico
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-18-2002 05:54 AM
   
Ok, I have a 1965 with the original 289 V8 with a 3 speed standard tranny.
How do I get this car to a performance model? Do I need to change the engine and tranny and differential? Please post ....
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indyphil
Gearhead Posts: 414
From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-18-2002 07:57 AM
the three speed tranny... is that automatic or manual? When people say three speed they usually mean manual. We call automatics by their other names like C-4 or cruise-o-matic.Anyway before embarking on any performance enhancements you will need to decide what its going to be used for, how wild you want to build it? If you explain what your car has in it already people here will have lots of advice on what to do!
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 520
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 11-18-2002 11:16 AM
You can keep the 289.You can make 300 hp pretty easily and still be a nice streetable engine.I would swap the 3 speed stick for a 4 speed, or even a 5 speed if your not going to go crazy with hp.Maybe change your rearend gears to something in the 3.50-3.70 range and your done.It all really depends how fast you want to go.At least your starting with a good base,it coulda been a six  ------------------
1968 mustang j-code sprint.13.69@101 306cu.in, stock ported heads,weiand exellerator,650 holley DP,hedman hedders,comp 292 Magnum cam,4-speed,8 inch 4.11 detroit locker
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 16688
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-18-2002 08:47 PM
Where's what we done to our '68 289http://www.geocities.com/mustangs68.geo/reb-fb.html
sam
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MrWesson22
Gearhead Posts: 1103
From: Dacula, GA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 11-19-2002 12:23 AM
Indyphil,
3 speed standard means manual. Anytime someone calls it a standard, it's a stick.
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Neal 69 Gulfstream Aqua Grande
351C/4sp
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soaring
Gearhead Posts: 116
From: New Mexico
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 01:42 AM
Thanks guys...I guess asll I need to do is bore and stroke the 289. Then, what am I look for for carburetation, ignition, etc, The one post was very interesting and informative. I need a fast street car. I have no intention of racing it.
The tranny is a 3 speed floor shift stick standard tranny----a side loader. The differential is the stock one that is factory specs. I don't even know the numbers.
I just got through with a complete body restoration, and now am considering making the tires smoke in all 4 gears.
thanks for all the help and advice.
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soaring
Gearhead Posts: 116
From: New Mexico
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 01:50 AM
Thanks Sam.....I printed out all your specs. Man, you really like Mustangs dono't you? lol I'll research all this and see if I can afford it all. Looks like a really nice set-up. Can you tell me what it has cost you sofar, other than the price of the original car? [email protected]
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 16688
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 11-19-2002 09:22 AM
The cost of the parts can be found by looking in the Summit Catallog as all my Parts came form them..something like $2000+/- Not being the best "Shadetree mechanic" I had a Shop here local do the work and that ran,with all the machine work,detail engine bay plus they did a bumper to bumper inspection appox,another $2000 total. The C4 work was somewhere in the Area of $300 labor (local Tranny Shop)for the rebuild plus parts as I wanted the TCI stuff installed and ordered them myself.
Like it yes..but I'm at the point where the body work is next.. Yea We have had a Mustang or Two  and I promise there will always be one in the yard.
As for the orginal cost of the '68 I paid $5000 for it back in Fall of 1995 and plan to spend another "Five Gallon Bucket" of money on it sooner or later
sam sam
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Lennie_21
Journeyman Posts: 92
From: Denton, TX
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-19-2002 06:45 PM
Soaring,It sounds to me like you're on your way to doing what I'm in the middle of doing myself. I bought a 68 6 banger and here's what I've done with mine so far. Changed from 8" rear end to 9" rear end with 3.89 gears and mini spooler
Changed from 4 leaf sagging springs to 5 leaf stiff springs
New KYB Rear shocks
Rear Sway Bar
Traction Bars
Sub Frame Connectors
Changes from 4 lug drum brakes to 5 lug disk brakes
New KYB Front shocks
Front Sway Bar
Export Braces
Monte Carlo Bar Started with a 289 and added the following goodies from the bottom up Polished crankshaft - original
Eagle I beam Connecting Rods
Manley 10.5:1 .030 over pistons
Melling High Volume Oil Pump
Moroso 8 qt Oil Pan
Windage Tray
Childs and Alberts Rings and bearings
351 Windsor Heads (pre 1974...bigger valves) with Stainless Steel Valves and Hardened Valve Seats
Heads Ported and Polished on Intake and Exhaust
1 5/8" Full Length Ceramic Coated Headers
Comp Cam .533 lift Hydraulic Roller Cam
Roller Lifters and 1.6 Roller Rockers
Chromoly Push Rods
Comp Cam Hi Tech Timing Chain Set
Vibratech Damper
Holley High Volume Fuel Pump
FORD C9x0 9424 - 180 degree Hi Rise Dual Plane Intake
Large Oval Aluminum Finned Ford Breather
Holley 650 DP Carb
MSD Billet Dsitributor
MSD 6AL Ignition
ARP Bolts from top/bottom front/back of engine
Aluminum Finned "Powered By Ford" Valve Covers w/K&N Breathers
Ford Racing Underdrive Pulley Set
Serpentine Drive Setup
TRW High Volume Water Pump This will all get glued together and fit up to a T-5 with a Zoom Cluch and Pressure Plate and hopefully be stuffed into the engine bay by the end of the year. It's only taken me about 5 years to get this far along.......lol
ONE DAY SOON IN THE NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE I HOPE........... I think I'll get personalized license plates that say............."Finally"
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71RESTO
Gearhead Posts: 1253
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 11-19-2002 08:46 PM
Alex (Moneymaker) made a thread earlier in the spring about getting 300hp out of a 289 for $1500 (including machine work). Maybe Alex or Steve L still has a link to that thread to help you out. It's probably the way I'll go for my daughter's '66 until she's done with college.------------------
Duane
71 Fastback (his) under resto (351C-4V C6 auto)
73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed)
66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's)
89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's)
M & M Member #730
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