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Topic: Clutch linkage? Cable or hydraulic?
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skiwater Journeyman Posts: 19 From: Utah Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-15-2002 01:02 PM
I appreciate all of the responses and advice on my "subframe connector" thread. I am obviously new to the site and so far I am very impressed. It is great to have a source to go to that I can get so much info. from people who have "been there and done that". This leads me to my next question. I am going to convert to a cable or hydraulic clutch system. What are the experiences that you have all had with these? I bought a Ron Morris cable conversion kit from Mustangs Plus but I'm worried about clearance issues with my headers. I'm running Hooker super comps. Has anyone made one of these instalations with long tube headers? Would going with a hydraulic kit pose less clearance problems? I'm down to the last few details on this car and hope that one of these days I'll actually be able to drive my Mu$tang. Thank you.------------------ '68 coupe 302 stroked to 347 Edelbrok performer rpm aluminum heads ported and polished edelbrok rpm airgap intake Holley HP 750 Hooker super comp headers .355 posi rear Mcleod clutch Tremec 3550 MSD ignition
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 19751 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 11-15-2002 01:09 PM
Sorry, but I am STRICTLY a mechanical linkage man myself. No cables for throttle, shifter, brakes etc on MM. I would make a nice mechanical "Z" bar using heim joints at the connections. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3529 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 11-15-2002 04:27 PM
Agreed. The only thing that can go wrong with a z-bar setup is if your foot falls asleap Seriously, why the switch from mechanical to 'other'? I've got Super Comps in my '65 with z-bar clutch linkage, everything fits great ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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kcode Gearhead Posts: 2623 From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208 Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-15-2002 05:31 PM
I agree with the distinguished gentlemen from Illinois and California on the oldtime mechanical "Z" bar linkage. Takes the worry out of cable stretch.------------------ Mike Golliver MCA Gold Card Judge-Modifieds 65 Kcode coupe 347 stroker modified 5-speed MCA Retired 66 convertible-3 dueces and a 5-speed with a 289 89 T-Bird Super coupe 01 Mustang GT Convt
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Wulfgar Gearhead Posts: 193 From: SAn diego, CA, USA Registered: Oct 99
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posted 11-15-2002 11:32 PM
I have a hyd clutch in my 68' It works great. Heavy as **** though. So if you like a good workout on your left leg. Go for the hyd. setup. Easy install and doesnt take up hardly any space whatsoever.
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TomP Gearhead Posts: 4838 From: Delta BC Canada Registered: Dec 99
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posted 11-15-2002 11:38 PM
hmm, my thoughts on hydraulic clutch sytems... (don't they have a smiley with steam coming out it's ears?)
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skiwater Journeyman Posts: 19 From: Utah Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 11-18-2002 06:09 PM
I am not against using a z bar setup. What do I do about the lack of somewhere to bolt the z bar on the engine side? Is there a way to make the z bar linkage work with a later model bell housing set up? Thanks------------------ '68 coupe 302 stroked to 347 Edelbrok performer rpm aluminum heads ported and polished edelbrok rpm airgap intake Holley HP 750 Hooker super comp headers .355 posi rear Mcleod clutch Tremec 3550 MSD ignition
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V8 Thumper Gearhead Posts: 3529 From: Orange, Ca. United States of America Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 11-18-2002 06:29 PM
There is a retrofit bracket available that bolts to your bellhousing, providing the ball pivot on the motor side. Call NPD or Mustangs Plus (links at the top of the page), tell them what you want to do and they'll set you up ------------------ 1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9" All Blue Oval, no blue bottle http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html
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68stang351 Gearhead Posts: 267 From: Savoy TX, USA Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 12:19 PM
I bought a JMC hydraulic setup and got too pissed off trying to install it so I turned around and spent another 400 on the RMP cable. When I first put the windsor in, it had long tubes, and the way they were made wouldn't allow the the cable to go through the hole in my T5 bellhousing. I was fed up with the hydraulic install so I ordered new Headman conversion headers (shorties). I really want to know how the hyd. setup works though, but you have to drill two holes in the firewall, and I made the mistake of not doing while the motor was out, and have no room to drill. I think it would've been a nice setup though. The cable is great though, its real smooth. The only bad thing about it is that you have to lower your steering column and take your gauges out to put it in. If you've looked at the instructions yet, you've seen what I'm talking about. I hate that stupid bracket and spring that you have to take off. I fought with that spring for days. ------------------ Hoofbeats are louder than Heartbeats! 68 Coupe, now with a 351W and 5speed. Now officially dubbed "THE PIT" New addition: 63 Fairlane 500!!
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