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skiwater
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From: Utah
Registered: Nov 2002

posted 11-15-2002 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skiwater   Click Here to Email skiwater     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciate all of the responses and advice on my "subframe connector" thread. I am obviously new to the site and so far I am very impressed. It is great to have a source to go to that I can get so much info. from people who have "been there and done that". This leads me to my next question. I am going to convert to a cable or hydraulic clutch system. What are the experiences that you have all had with these? I bought a Ron Morris cable conversion kit from Mustangs Plus but I'm worried about clearance issues with my headers. I'm running Hooker super comps. Has anyone made one of these instalations with long tube headers? Would going with a hydraulic kit pose less clearance problems? I'm down to the last few details on this car and hope that one of these days I'll actually be able to drive my Mu$tang.
Thank you.

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'68 coupe
302 stroked to 347
Edelbrok performer rpm aluminum heads ported and polished
edelbrok rpm airgap intake
Holley HP 750
Hooker super comp headers
.355 posi rear
Mcleod clutch
Tremec 3550
MSD ignition

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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99

posted 11-15-2002 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but I am STRICTLY a mechanical linkage man myself.

No cables for throttle, shifter, brakes etc on MM. I would make a nice mechanical "Z" bar using heim joints at the connections.

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V8 Thumper
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From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
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posted 11-15-2002 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. The only thing that can go wrong with a z-bar setup is if your foot falls asleap

Seriously, why the switch from mechanical to 'other'? I've got Super Comps in my '65 with z-bar clutch linkage, everything fits great

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

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kcode
Gearhead

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From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-15-2002 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kcode   Click Here to Email kcode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the distinguished gentlemen from Illinois and California on the oldtime mechanical "Z" bar linkage. Takes the worry out of cable stretch.

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Mike Golliver
MCA Gold Card Judge-Modifieds
65 Kcode coupe 347 stroker modified 5-speed MCA Retired
66 convertible-3 dueces and a 5-speed with a 289
89 T-Bird Super coupe
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Wulfgar
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From: SAn diego, CA, USA
Registered: Oct 99

posted 11-15-2002 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wulfgar   Click Here to Email Wulfgar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a hyd clutch in my 68' It works great. Heavy as **** though. So if you like a good workout on your left leg. Go for the hyd. setup. Easy install and doesnt take up hardly any space whatsoever.

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TomP
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From: Delta BC Canada
Registered: Dec 99

posted 11-15-2002 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm, my thoughts on hydraulic clutch sytems...

(don't they have a smiley with steam coming out it's ears?)

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skiwater
Journeyman

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From: Utah
Registered: Nov 2002

posted 11-18-2002 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skiwater   Click Here to Email skiwater     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not against using a z bar setup. What do I do about the lack of somewhere to bolt the z bar on the engine side? Is there a way to make the z bar linkage work with a later model bell housing set up?
Thanks

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'68 coupe
302 stroked to 347
Edelbrok performer rpm aluminum heads ported and polished
edelbrok rpm airgap intake
Holley HP 750
Hooker super comp headers
.355 posi rear
Mcleod clutch
Tremec 3550
MSD ignition

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V8 Thumper
Gearhead

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From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 11-18-2002 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a retrofit bracket available that bolts to your bellhousing, providing the ball pivot on the motor side. Call NPD or Mustangs Plus (links at the top of the page), tell them what you want to do and they'll set you up

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

All Blue Oval, no blue bottle
http://mustangsandmore.50megs.com/V8Thumper.html

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68stang351
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From: Savoy TX, USA
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 11-19-2002 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68stang351   Click Here to Email 68stang351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought a JMC hydraulic setup and got too pissed off trying to install it so I turned around and spent another 400 on the RMP cable.

When I first put the windsor in, it had long tubes, and the way they were made wouldn't allow the the cable to go through the hole in my T5 bellhousing.

I was fed up with the hydraulic install so I ordered new Headman conversion headers (shorties).

I really want to know how the hyd. setup works though, but you have to drill two holes in the firewall, and I made the mistake of not doing while the motor was out, and have no room to drill. I think it would've been a nice setup though.

The cable is great though, its real smooth. The only bad thing about it is that you have to lower your steering column and take your gauges out to put it in. If you've looked at the instructions yet, you've seen what I'm talking about. I hate that stupid bracket and spring that you have to take off. I fought with that spring for days.

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Hoofbeats are louder than Heartbeats!
68 Coupe, now with a 351W and 5speed.
Now officially dubbed "THE PIT"
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