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Wicked-Toy
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From: Richmond, VA USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-11-2002 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wicked-Toy   Click Here to Email Wicked-Toy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my previous post I outlined a problem concerning my friends starter not turning the engine when hot problem. He brought the car over Sat. and we messed around a little with the timing and it does a little better. He left the car for me to mess with and I found a couple of things. To begin with the gas pedal didnt open the carb up all the way. That made the car run 100% better. The carb is a 4100 off of who knows what. When the dist vac advance is connected to the carb the idle and timing go way up which I think is causing the slow starter. The vac line is connected to the only port I see which is on the pass. side thru a nipple screwed into the base of the carb. Is this correct as it seems to have manifold vac. all the time. I have it disconnected at present and the timing adjusted to where the car runs great and the starter drags when hot maybe once or twice out of twenty starts. Any thoughts ?? I never really put a timing light on it just played around with the timeing and then take a test drive.

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Scott Akom
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V8 Thumper
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From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 11-11-2002 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What year/model car is it? Engine/transmission?

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Wicked-Toy
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From: Richmond, VA USA
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posted 11-11-2002 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wicked-Toy   Click Here to Email Wicked-Toy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he car is a 67 coupe but it has a 65 engine and trans in the car. The 289 has been completly rebuilt with a slightly larger that stock cam and a Performer intake with the Autolite 4100 carb. Ingnition is a stock distributor with Pertronix module.

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Scott Akom
65 Coupe (Modified)
68 Coupe (Son's)
2000 GT Conv. (Wifes)
1987 GT Conv. (Son's)
1966 Project Conv.[URL=http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/3845/65dsde2.jpg
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V8 Thumper
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posted 11-11-2002 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assuming the car has the correct starter for that flexplate tooth count, maybe something as simple as the soleniod?

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 11-11-2002 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There isn't enough vacuum generated by the engine while cranking to cause a problem with the starter. Get a timing light and set the timing at 10 degrees btc with the vacuum disconnected and plugged. You can get by with manifold vacuum you may just have to tinker with the mechanical advance springs and weights in the distriibutor.

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