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indyphil
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From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 11-07-2002 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a bit of a problem.
I bought a chrome dipstick tube and was told the old dipstick should just pull out.

After a lot of pulling I gave up for a while. Today I was working in that area and had the alternator out, so i decided to work at it some more. The tube popped off in my hand and appears to have left its lower half in the timing cover. Now when I investiagted this i realized that its an aluminum timing cover. I thought it would have been cast iron. But I beleive that because it aluminum it may have welded itself to the steel dipstick tube and thats why it wont come out.

So my questions are

1. Are aluminum timing covers standard on 1968 289 V8's ?? I thought they were only aftermarket. perhaps the previous owners put it on, the engine was "rebuilt" according to the guy I bought it off.

2. anyone have the lower part of the dipstick tube stuck like this? I would like to take it out without removing the timing cover! help!! if i cant get it out and replace it the engine will leak oil when it runs, so i would need to bung the hole. I dont want to do that. Perhaps one of those stud extractors will do it.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-07-2002 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phil, all SBF's have aluminum timing covers.
You can get the remaining piece out with and easy out extractor, or a 5/16 bolt. You have to tap either one into the tube and then screw/twist it out with the broken off piece.

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indyphil
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posted 11-07-2002 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh
Now i feel silly. I assumed they were cast iron and now I have no idea why i would think that. I also ordered the ARP bolt set for a cast iron timing cover when i bought an aluminum water pump, they probably wont fit. This is what happens when you work for a diesel engine company, you start assuming that everything is made of cast iron...

I got the little piece of dipstick tube out with the #5 extractor from sears. Phew that was easy. Now i have my shiney new dipstick in there.

all better, thanks for the information Alex, i never stop learning on this site. Someday I will have to come and see you race and buy you a couple of beers for all the help I have gotten. If the M&M meet is anywhere in the midwest next year I may have to buy lots of beers for a lot of people.

Phil

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V8 Thumper
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posted 11-07-2002 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, next year's Doo-Dah will be in Southern California

If you feel there's any chance of metal from the broken tube or extractor shards winding up in the oil pan, now would be a great time for an oil change too

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indyphil
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posted 11-08-2002 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep
I was going to do an oil change this weekend anyway because I got a little water in there from another little mishap I had. Ah well.

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Pierre
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posted 11-08-2002 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by V8 Thumper:
No, next year's Doo-Dah will be in Southern California

If this is in august, I will definately come and check it out.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 11-08-2002 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I don't know for sure it'll be here in SoCal , I'm just planting the seed

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1965 GT coupe, 333ci aluminum headed/solid cammed stroker, four speed, 3.70:1 9"

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66 Racer
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posted 11-08-2002 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66 Racer   Click Here to Email 66 Racer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can just get one off any 289 or 302, as long as it has the dipstick tube on the timing cover, i dont know when, i think in the 70's, they started to put them in the block so that the ones in the timing cover where never drilled, some dont even have the opening for a mechanical fuel pump either.

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66bluefb
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posted 11-09-2002 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 66bluefb   Click Here to Email 66bluefb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indyphil,I rebuild wreck diesel trucks for a living and they are built with aluminum cabs and steel frames. When I work on an older truck a lot of times I can`t bust the bolts loose with a 1/2 in impact. I end up heating the bolt before it comes loose. Steel and aluminum will weld themselfs together. I have a 289 timing cover I will let you have cheap if you want it. Tony

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