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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-07-2002 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody sell quality headers for this application that doesn't require the power steering ram relocation bracket?

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-07-2002 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Hooker "race headers" do not Steve. Nor do Tubular Automotive's.
the race header will require some collector modifications for street use. No big deal, but EXPENSIVE headers.

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posted 11-07-2002 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I see now that Hooker has discontinued it.

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Alex Denysenko
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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-07-2002 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably would have been big tubes anyway, right?

Maybe I should look into the TA headers and find someone besides them that carry them.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-07-2002 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes they were very big Steve. 2 1/8 inch.

TA makes a high quality product as long as you have the time to wait for it.

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Alex Denysenko
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kid vishus
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posted 11-07-2002 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Yes they were very big Steve. 2 1/8 inch.


My 1 7/8" super comps were the biggest tubes I could get from Hooker a couple of yrs ago that fit my car. That was why I bought them.

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Moneymaker
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posted 11-07-2002 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rob, Hooker used to make a Competition adjustable header for 351C Mustang in 2 1/8.
Several SS racers I know still have them.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 11-08-2002 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sold a set of the 2 1/8th Hookers for 50 bucks to a guy about a month ago, from my old motor. I have his email but I bet he won't let them go.
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bossman
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posted 11-08-2002 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bossman   Click Here to Email bossman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have heard nothing but great praise for the headers that the guyz at www.fordpowertrain.com produce. In looking at their application chart, nothing is said of the p/s bracket, but that is not to say its not required. I know a lot of the Boss 302 owners have been "won" over the FPA headers due to superior fit and finish.....

randy

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-08-2002 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, I honestly doubt that you would be happy with the Hooker race headers on the street, they hang really low, & have slip joints, which always seem to leak when used with mufflers. Just about any full length headers will require that D@m& PS bracket, I hate them too. On my 70 Mustang sportsroof back in the mid 70`s, I installed a set of Cyclone headers on the 351C 4V engine. These were specifically made for the large 4 barrel ports, & they were fairly low. These headers, & the Hooker 6114 street headers I had on my 70 Mach 1`s 428 both required the PS relocating bracket. What I found was that, first the road feel thru the steering wheel was greatly deminished, due to the bracket flexing. Later, on both cars, the extra leverage of the longer bracket caused the "Riv Nuts" to rip out of the frame rail, which also bent the PS ram cylinders shaft. Then the bracket needed to be welded solidly to the frame to reattatch it. Not the best design, thats for sure!

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kid vishus
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posted 11-08-2002 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For what it's worth, my Hooker super comps have a standard 3 bolt flange on the collector.

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