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Topic: High volume oil pump on 351W?
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catman_45
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: Moscow, ID, USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 10-19-2002 02:38 AM
   
Ok, there has been some debate among the 'know it alls' who are helping me build my mustang engine. Should I use a high volume oil pump or a stock volume one? I can provide more detail if necessary.Thanks,
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1966 Coupe w/ 351 Windsor, BM Slap shifter, aqua blue, dual exhaust with turbo mufflers
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 3529
From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 10-19-2002 08:34 AM
A few guys from Arkadelphia  and one from Lyons who know a thing or two explained it to me this way: In a motor with precession machine work and assembly, HV pumps cost horsepower. When asked if were even concievable an insurance policy even as a 'liability' , they said NO. Do precession work with good components (the right way to build a motor), buy a good quality standard volume/pressure pump and run hard  [This message has been edited by V8 Thumper (edited 10-19-2002).]
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Moneymaker
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From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-19-2002 11:35 AM
In leiu of absolute precision machine work, use the Melling/Dynagear HV pump. ------------------
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skips69
Gearhead Posts: 274
From: Catlin, IL USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-19-2002 04:24 PM
I debated this too when rebuilding my 351W and went with a stock oil pump. I have the Edelbrock Performer RPM package and have had no problems for 3 + years now. It is "rated" at 400 HP/412 Torque. I did have quality machine work done and performed my owm assembly. I heard more "nay" answers when I was looking into this. Oil Pressure is always solid on mine......
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6602
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-19-2002 08:35 PM
Bill,How's that engine coming along?
I ran a HV pump on it with 5-30 Royal Purple oil and it was fine. The new 408w stroker is a stock pump with thicker oil. HV pumps are harder on the distributor's gear too. SteveW
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catman_45
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: Moscow, ID, USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 10-20-2002 05:25 AM
Steve,The engine was coming along fine until I had to go back to college. Now its sitting patiently until I return for summer break. Its got all its pistons in it, cam, and heads. Everything was plastigauged and we checked for smooth rotation by turning the crank with a big wrench. Its been smeared with assembly grease and wd40 and covered for the winter months. I'm looking into gear drive timing mechanisms for it right now. I think I will go with the HV pump, and my one friend did recommend a tougher distributor gear if I went that route. Anyway, I'm stuck here in Idaho while my beast sits back home in Alaska. Needless to say, I cry myself asleep to the humm of my engine every night. How are Melissa's 1/4 times with that 408 beast? -Bill ------------------
1966 Coupe w/ 351 Windsor, BM Slap shifter, aqua blue, dual exhaust with turbo mufflers
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6602
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-21-2002 11:16 AM
Bill,That's a shame that you didn't get it finished this summer. At least you have something to look forward too.
The 408w is running 10's now, with a 10.82 best so far. Good luck, SteveW
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68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 378
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-21-2002 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by steve'66:
Bill,That's a shame that you didn't get it finished this summer. At least you have something to look forward too.
The 408w is running 10's now, with a 10.82 best so far. Good luck, SteveW
Are you running 10's N/A?
What stroker kit did you use?
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6602
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-22-2002 12:39 AM
Alton,Nothing special or expensive, except maybe the engine and tranny. Here's a link to the photo page with the engine specs, https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Melissa.html SteveW
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6602
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-22-2002 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by 68DARKHORSE:
Are you running 10's N/A?
Yeah, it's N/A. All steel and stock suspension too down to the drum brakes. Even has the copper/brass radiator, and a stereo.  It is "low budget" SteveW
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68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 378
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-22-2002 09:05 AM
Thanks Steve. My 351W is at the shop getting checked out.
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68DARKHORSE
Gearhead Posts: 378
From: Austin, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 10-22-2002 09:14 AM
Steve,
How is the rear set up?
It looks like it launches nice and straight.
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steve'66
Gearhead Posts: 6602
From: Sonoma,CA,USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 10-22-2002 10:05 AM
It's 4 leaf springs clamped front and rear w/Rancho 9000 shocks set on 3 with Lakewood slapper bars.SteveW
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catman_45
Journeyman Posts: 63
From: Moscow, ID, USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 10-23-2002 04:38 PM
Steve,Is Melissa taken? If her and I got together maybe I could drive that beast once and a while Just joking man... -Bill ------------------
1966 Coupe w/ 351 Windsor, BM Slap shifter, aqua blue, dual exhaust with turbo mufflers
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