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Topic: Distributor Problem!
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BobbyR Journeyman Posts: 28 From: Brentwood, CA USA Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 10-15-2002 12:32 PM
I have a 1979 351W in a 1970 Fastback everything was running fine then she started popping a little then nothing.I have a MSD 6al box, power is sparking from the coil (useing the white wire to and from ground). The distributor is the big cap Duraspark. I don't get any current to the plugs. All my connections are correct and working. Any suggestions?
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 19611 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 10-15-2002 12:45 PM
See if you get any spark between the cap and coil wire? Also between the cap and plug wires. You may have a cracked or burned cap. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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BobbyR Journeyman Posts: 28 From: Brentwood, CA USA Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 10-15-2002 01:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moneymaker: See if you get any spark between the cap and coil wire? Also between the cap and plug wires. You may have a cracked or burned cap.
I have just replaced cap, rotor, and wires so that has been eliminated. What about the distributor? How do you tell if that is working properly?
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mustangzrule Journeyman Posts: 87 From: Orion, MI Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 10-15-2002 01:39 PM
No spark to the plugs means something wrong between the coil where you are getting a spark??? and the plug where you are not.The only items between them are the wires, cap, and rotor. If these are replaced, then something is wrong with them. The ??? above is whether you actually got a spark from the coil or you are just getting a signal TO the coil. If no spark from coil (and this makes sense) then your coil is bad. Replace the coil.
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RonnieT Gearhead Posts: 540 From: Port Allen, La. 70767 Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-15-2002 09:07 PM
The way you are saying you checked for spark by grounding the white wire says that the MSD Box and coil is working, if you connect everything back up and spin the motor over and do not get a spark from the coil wire there is something in the system that has failed. I have never ran a MSD/Duraspark combo, but if the stock ford control module is still used in the loop that could be the problem or it could be the pick up in the distributor. I saw a test procedure for the pickup in a manual, but do not remember how it said to test it.------------------ Ronnie 69 mach1 351W-4V engineless at the time! 70 Torino GT 351C-4v with a "shaker" Mustangs and More Member #23
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67coupe Gearhead Posts: 370 From: dallas NC usa Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-15-2002 09:16 PM
if u dont mind me asking how do u have the duraspark hooked up its been awile but i didnt think u used the white wire for the duraspark it should hook up like a msd dist to the box with 2 wires purple and green i think it was?------------------ Josh 67 coupe with 351c 94 Explorer 30 model A currently rustbucket in process 67 convt with efi 5.0 and t5
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BobbyR Journeyman Posts: 28 From: Brentwood, CA USA Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 10-16-2002 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by mustangzrule: No spark to the plugs means something wrong between the coil where you are getting a spark??? and the plug where you are not.The only items between them are the wires, cap, and rotor. If these are replaced, then something is wrong with them. The ??? above is whether you actually got a spark from the coil or you are just getting a signal TO the coil. If no spark from coil (and this makes sense) then your coil is bad. Replace the coil.
I have replaced the rotor, cap, & wires and still no spark, so I believe those are eliminated. Can you have a spark from the coil and still have it not work properly? I have replaced the magnetic device in the distributor but I broke the drive gear so I have not been able to test it yet!
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BobbyR Journeyman Posts: 28 From: Brentwood, CA USA Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 10-16-2002 02:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by 67coupe: if u dont mind me asking how do u have the duraspark hooked up its been awile but i didnt think u used the white wire for the duraspark it should hook up like a msd dist to the box with 2 wires purple and green i think it was?
The Duraspark is not hooked up through a module. The purple and green wires from the MSD is connected, via a connector from MSD, to the 3 wire plug from the distributor. The white is use as a kill switch
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BobbyR Journeyman Posts: 28 From: Brentwood, CA USA Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 10-16-2002 02:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by RonnieT: The way you are saying you checked for spark by grounding the white wire says that the MSD Box and coil is working, if you connect everything back up and spin the motor over and do not get a spark from the coil wire there is something in the system that has failed. I have never ran a MSD/Duraspark combo, but if the stock ford control module is still used in the loop that could be the problem or it could be the pick up in the distributor. I saw a test procedure for the pickup in a manual, but do not remember how it said to test it.
I am not using the module. MSD straight to the distributor, via a plug from MSD (two wires to 3 wires).
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Moneymaker Administrator Posts: 19611 From: Lyons, IL, USA Registered: May 99
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posted 10-16-2002 02:49 PM
OOPS! F/L/M dealers stock the gears with a roll pin. ------------------ Alex Denysenko Co-Administrator and Moderator NHRA/IHRA/SRA member and licensed Superstock driver MCA member# 53321 NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02 Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28 Professional Manwhore The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked." Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!" Quote #3: "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!"
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