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Topic: 3 speed 65 GT??
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shoe
Gearhead Posts: 146
From: midwest
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-30-2002 09:21 PM
   
I ran into a car for sale at a swap meet this weekend that the guy swore was a factory GT. COuld it be?? It was an "A"code 65 with the original 289 4V motor.He said it was an all original unrestored car( That it looked like). He said it was a GT.It had several GT items, but those could of been added anytime even the bigger front sway stabilizer bar. But it was a 3 speed manual. Non woodsteering wheel, standard interior. Did a GT ever come frommthe factory with a 3 speed. I doubted it. I know dealer installed GT's are out there .That's what I told him he had .He dissagreed. Who is correct?
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 18704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 09-30-2002 09:28 PM
3 speed was standard on all 289 Mustangs except 289 HP. The 4 speed was an extra cost option even in a GT. Most dealers ordered all GT's for stock with 4-speeds or autos. Only a real cheapskate would have ordered a standard 3 speed.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 3349
From: Vancouver Island , British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 09-30-2002 09:29 PM
I don,t think that they ever did the GT in a 3 spd standard , but , I could very well be wrong. Get the door tag numbers and codes , as well as , the vin number , then decode them. Also check the inner 1/4 panel for a matching number to the vin. Yhis is not a GT option , I believe all the stangs had this , it is just a way to see if they have been changed. JOHN ------------------
65 2+2 FASTBACK
68 COUPE
87 TAURUS WAGON
98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 18704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 09-30-2002 09:33 PM
Yes they did John. Look up one post  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
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johnmustang
Gearhead Posts: 3349
From: Vancouver Island , British Columbia , Canada
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 09-30-2002 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by Moneymaker:
Yes they did John. Look up one post
I see that now Alex , it was not there when I started my response to this post. I have learned something new again , always thought that the 4 spd was standard equipment on the GT. Just more info I now have stored in my mustang section of my brain  JOHN ------------------
65 2+2 FASTBACK
68 COUPE
87 TAURUS WAGON
98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE
Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association
M&M #1710
MyPhotoPage
MY TRUCK
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 18704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 09-30-2002 09:42 PM
Speaking of stored John, here's a thing or two that I have had stored up for too long...
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Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
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bifs66
Gearhead Posts: 132
From: Maryland
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-30-2002 11:25 PM
I ordered a new 65 GT Fastback (in 65 of course) and had to pay extra for the optional 4 spd. The car had the standard steering wheel and interior. The only other option was the AM radio.------------------
Bernie Frank
66 Fastback restomod project
85 GT (preserved)
82 GT (original)
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shoe
Gearhead Posts: 146
From: midwest
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-30-2002 11:30 PM
Just to let you know ALL the numbers did match. But even decoding the door tag or VIN number data will not tell you if it is a GT or not. By the way the car did sell Sunday ,not to me, I was more curious than interested.. It was very very rusty . He was asking $3900 for it. That surprises me too ,a 3 speed GT A code... I don't supposed it was even syncronized down into first gear. Boring.... I'll stick to my "K" code ""4-SPEED ""Convert.
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kcode
Gearhead Posts: 2468
From: alvaton,ky,usa Suburb of Bowling Green, M&M #79, MCA #29208
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-30-2002 11:31 PM
Shoe,
I agree with Alex, 3-speed tranny was standard equipment. there are a couple of other items that can tell the real from fakes. If it was a 65, it had to have a date code later than Feb 65, P through V. Look at the rear frame rails on the inside just in front of the rear shackles, there must be threaded inserts in the frame, both left and right sides for the factory dual exhaust hangers, also inserts on the rear floor pans on both sides for muffler hangers. The rear brake hose mounting on the rear axle must be in front of the axle not on top. Standard A and C codes were on top. These are the most common things that people who make fake GT's don't take the time to change.Mike
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Moneymaker
Administrator Posts: 18704
From: Lyons, IL, USA
Registered: May 99
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posted 10-01-2002 10:32 AM
Mike is 100% correct. Those are ALWAYS the first things that I look at when confirming a 65-66 GT.
Back up lights were optional too.
$3900 doesn't sound bad to me for a complete running car.  ------------------
Alex Denysenko
Co-Administrator and Moderator/ non 65-66 Mustang owner sensitivity co-ordinator NHRA/IHRA/SRA/MCA member
NHRA and IHRA SS/LA National Record Holder '00, '01, & '02
Fleet of FoMoCo products including 88 ASC McLaren Mustang #28
Part time secret agent license #0089
Professional Manwhore
The Barry of BarrysGrrl Quote #1: "I never met a magazine mechanic I liked."
Quote #2: "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth!"
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