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bgseib
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From: Tyler, TX, USA
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posted 09-30-2002 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK - dumb question here - I either have a cracked head or busted head gaskey - so once I narrow down the side it is on I will have to pull the head. How hard is it to do, and do I need to actually do anything with the lifters and springs? Or am I just basically unbolting the heads and replacing the gasket and boting it back up???

Thanks in advance,
Brian

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-30-2002 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unbolting the intake and exhaust manifold and cylinder head is all you need to do. You will not have to touch the lifters or valve springs.

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bgseib
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posted 09-30-2002 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GREAT!!! I don't know why - but for some reason I was picturing having to mess with all the rocker arms and springs, etc... Well that won't be so bad then - I wonder why the shop I talked to wanted to charge about 1200 to replace the heads... : )

Thanks for the words!!

Brian

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bgseib
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posted 09-30-2002 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What type of gaskets should I use for the intake and heads?? What is the best to keep this from happening again??

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Brian

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 09-30-2002 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will have to re-adjust the valve train once the heads are installed. Fel-Pro would be the brand I would recommend. Also, if it is the gasket, go ahead and replace both of them. It's that ounce of prevention thing...

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-30-2002 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the Victor product personally on all SBF's, but the Fel-Pro's will do nicely also.

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Alex Denysenko
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ice'68
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posted 09-30-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice'68   Click Here to Email ice'68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Alex, dumb question here maybe...but does Summit or Jegs sell Victor products? I'd like to get some SS Head Gaskets for my 351W.

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Moneymaker
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posted 09-30-2002 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAPA stores sell Victor gaskets exclusively guys.

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Alex Denysenko
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bgseib
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posted 09-30-2002 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK - Alex (or anyone really) - new twist on my problem... I checked the compression on all cylinders and I get at least 180 on each and none of them leak back down. If you check out my previous thread that explains all the symptoms https://mustangsandmore.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007956.html

I am at a loss now - I really thought it was a blown head gasket - But now I don't know... Any thoughts??

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Brian

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 10-01-2002 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds like you did a cylinder compression test. Your not going to find the leak like that. You have to do a leak down test on each cylinder until you find the one that has the leak and you dont do a leak down test with a compression guage. I read where you said that you didn't "do" anything to the engine to cause a head gasket leak. Well, you dont have to do anything, it's just one of those things that sometimes happens. I'd recommend replacing the gaskets. Good luck.

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bgseib
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posted 10-01-2002 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgseib   Click Here to Email bgseib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK - how do I do a leak down test?? I took the needle out of my compression tester to see if it would leak back down, but they all do.. As you are cranking the pressure goes up when that cylinder is heat and then goes right back down... So how do you do that kind of a test...

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Brian

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69 Sportsroof
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posted 10-01-2002 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 69 Sportsroof   Click Here to Email 69 Sportsroof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any decent radiator shop can do one for you. They pressurize the cooling system to see if it will hold the pressure. If it doesn't hold the pressure then there is a leak somewhere in the system. When your thermostat opens do you see bubbles in the radiator? If so, you are getting combustion gasses in the coolant passages which indicates 1) Bad Head gasket or 2) Cracked block or head. If the radiator shop indicates a leak, replace both head gaskets.

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jsracingbbf
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posted 10-01-2002 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jsracingbbf   Click Here to Email jsracingbbf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a Link to some folks that make and sell Victor-reinz gaskets.
www.victorreinz.com
www.engineparts.com/products/sealingsolutions/solutions24.html
also
www.internalengineparts.com/index1.html
Good luck!
Jerry

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