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indyphil
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From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 09-30-2002 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was reading in the instruction book for my edelbrock carb (you can flame me later for buying edelbrock, and for reading the instruction book but hear me out)

It says that if you run blended fuel it is more "volatile" which means it evaporates more readily, and will tend to run leaner because of the oxygenation. It makes hot starts more difficult, vapor locks easier etc... they say so long as its less than 10% ethanol it should not be a problem.

I guess the fuel injected late model cars dont care because their oxygen sensor will adjust the fuelling for them to keep the mixture right. But for us it would be good to know who sells blended fuels and when. Apparently it is supposed to be a winter fuel, but people have been selling it year round.

Could this explain why so many people have been having hard starting problems and vapor locking this summer?

What can I do? Do i expect the guy behind that big carousel of cigarettes to know what blend the fuel is? I would like to buy the non blended type at least in summer.

and I know a real engineer would never read the instructions, but I was having trouble sleeping last night, and it really helped.

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kid vishus
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From: middle of NC
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 09-30-2002 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kid vishus   Click Here to Email kid vishus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All we had in Iowa was a 10% blend, and I never had any problems with it in any of my carb equiped cars any time of the year. And just so you know, it was all I used. I used it year round, and even ran it in one of my lower compression race motors and never had any problems with it. I even won a couple of races using it for fuel.

I really thought all these mis-conceptions about "gasohol" went out the window a LONG time ago. But I guess not yet.

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Pierre
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From: France
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 09-30-2002 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indyphil:
I was reading in the instruction book for my edelbrock carb (you can flame me later for buying edelbrock, and for reading the instruction book but hear me out)

It says that if you run blended fuel it is more "volatile" which means it evaporates more readily, and will tend to run leaner because of the oxygenation. It makes hot starts more difficult, vapor locks easier etc... they say so long as its less than 10% ethanol it should not be a problem.

I guess the fuel injected late model cars dont care because their oxygen sensor will adjust the fuelling for them to keep the mixture right. But for us it would be good to know who sells blended fuels and when. Apparently it is supposed to be a winter fuel, but people have been selling it year round.

Could this explain why so many people have been having hard starting problems and vapor locking this summer?

What can I do? Do i expect the guy behind that big carousel of cigarettes to know what blend the fuel is? I would like to buy the non blended type at least in summer.

and I know a real engineer would never read the instructions, but I was having trouble sleeping last night, and it really helped.


At least edelbrocks comes with a manual (when the simplicity of it doesn't really require one). My last holley came butt nak**, no manual, no fuel line, no air filter stud and you guys know how easy it is to get these parts around here

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65darkhorse
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Registered: Aug 2002

posted 09-30-2002 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 65darkhorse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
waddya mean ? there aren't any speed shops in your neighborhood ? Out of curiosity, where in France are you ?

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Pierre
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From: France
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posted 09-30-2002 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 65darkhorse:
waddya mean ? there aren't any speed shops in your neighborhood ? Out of curiosity, where in France are you ?

30 miles west of Paris, there are about 8-10 american specialty shops around here but they only carry main stream stuff like : clutches, brake pads, filters, etc....but none of the nick-nacks that I am always looking for.

Anyway, sorry Indyphil I am getting of-track here !

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indyphil
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From: Lafayette, IN, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted 09-30-2002 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indyphil   Click Here to Email indyphil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KV,
thanks for the reply, what you are saying supports the manual. 10% really should not be a problem. the question is how do I know i only have 10%? is it illegal to use more than 10%? This is where a little knowledge becomes dangerous because un-informed people like myself start to make buying decisions based on rumour and opinion. I dont feel so bad about buying "gasohol" knowing that people have used it on carb engines without trouble, so thanks again I can sleep a little easier now!

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