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Topic: What size radiator?
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bibbs68 Gearhead Posts: 1554 From: Jackson, TN Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-24-2002 01:29 PM
I did a search for the answer to this because I know it has to have been asked in the past, however, I couldn't find it.I need to get a fan shroud on my car before it's first 10 hour one way trip to Biloxi, MS. How do I determine what size shroud I need? It is an original FoMoCo radiator. ------------------ Jeremy '68 Coupe M&M Member #685 MCA Member #49134 Help make the world a better place, drive a Ford and race a slot car!
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Fastback68 Gearhead Posts: 2951 From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines Registered: Jul 99
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posted 09-24-2002 01:54 PM
If you let us know your engine size and whether you've got AC, we can tell you the "right" shroud for your application. Or you can go with a '69 service part. I've been keeping my eyes open for the original '68 302 AC 4V shroud for a year now, and folks keep telling me to go with a '69 service part replacement.
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bibbs68 Gearhead Posts: 1554 From: Jackson, TN Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-24-2002 03:28 PM
My engine size is 289 w/o AC. I may put A/C on later but it will not be factory.
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mustangs68 Moderator Posts: 21889 From: Buckroe Beach Va MCA#39406 M&M #12 Member Mustang Club of Tidewater Registered: May 99
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posted 09-24-2002 06:40 PM
Look at the back side of your Radiator and measure from flange to flange it's either a 20 1/4 inch or 24 1/4 inch Radiator.odds on you have a 24 in and the reproduction shroud will run appox $65 - 75 plus shipping.
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ice'68 Gearhead Posts: 127 From: Fresno, CA Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 09-24-2002 11:35 PM
I got mine from California Mustang when they were on Special, 'bout 2 months back.
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bibbs68 Gearhead Posts: 1554 From: Jackson, TN Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-25-2002 09:02 AM
Thanks for the info. Now what in the world is a flange? Kidding! ------------------ Jeremy '68 Coupe M&M Member #685 MCA Member #49134 Help make the world a better place, drive a Ford and race a slot car!
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Katherine Journeyman Posts: 41 From: Albany, GA USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 09-25-2002 02:10 PM
My 66 mustang is a 302 with A/C, automatic trans, and has a hipro radiator. The fan shroud is very thin and I hardly feel it will make a difference to have it on. It maybe sticks out 2 inches? Is this going to help cool the engine really? I have it off right now. Thanks.
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bibbs68 Gearhead Posts: 1554 From: Jackson, TN Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-25-2002 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Katherine: Is this going to help cool the engine really? I have it off right now. Thanks.
Well, here is my two cents. If the shroud wasn't needed, Ford wouldn't have put it there. From a technical standpoint, it greatly increases the airflow into the radiator which helps to cool the engine. I have got by without one for 2 years now, but I would feel better if it were there. At least I could know for sure that an adequate amount of air was flowing through the radiator.
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johnmustang Gearhead Posts: 5701 From: British Columbia , Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 09-25-2002 02:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Katherine: My 66 mustang is a 302 with A/C, automatic trans, and has a hipro radiator. The fan shroud is very thin and I hardly feel it will make a difference to have it on. It maybe sticks out 2 inches? Is this going to help cool the engine really? I have it off right now. Thanks.
A shroud will make a huge difference , you may want to get one that sticks out 3 to 4 inches ( after market available item ). Your standard pully attached fan is really only good til about 30 to 40 MPH , after that it is the forward movement of your car that forces air through your rad. At an idle or low MPH the fan , shroud and hood work together to direct the outside air through your rad. A six bladed flex fan will also really help cool you down JOHN ------------------ 65 2+2 FASTBACK 68 COUPE 87 TAURUS WAGON 98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association M&M #1710 MyPhotoPage MY TRUCK
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indyphil Gearhead Posts: 2255 From: Senoia, G.A. USA Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 09-25-2002 03:44 PM
Does this mean all the cars came with shrouds from the factory? Mine is without a shroud and I thought it must have come that way. I thought shrouds were an "add-on".I have a 68 coupe with 289CiV8 and a C-4 auto. My engine does run pretty hot especially at lower speeds. time to get a shroud?
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johnmustang Gearhead Posts: 5701 From: British Columbia , Canada Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 09-25-2002 03:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by indyphil: Does this mean all the cars came with shrouds from the factory? Mine is without a shroud and I thought it must have come that way. I thought shrouds were an "add-on". I have a 68 coupe with 289CiV8 and a C-4 auto. My engine does run pretty hot especially at lower speeds. time to get a shroud?
No , not all cars from the 60`s and 70`s came with shrouds , for some of them it was a dealer or factory option add-on Get a shroud , can never go wrong with one , also a 6 bladed flex fan. Would not be a bad idea to check your rad for some blockage , water pump working O.K. ? Check that your thermostat is working O.K., what temp stat are you running ? Something else to remember is that your tranny fluid is also going into your rad ( at the bottom in the small tranny tank ), this will also heat up the water in your tranny a little bit. Don,t forget to check that your temp gage is also working O.K. JOHN ------------------ 65 2+2 FASTBACK 68 COUPE 87 TAURUS WAGON 98 F150 XLT TRITON V8 4.6, 4 WHEEL DRIVE Member:Vancouver Island Mustang Association M&M #1710 MyPhotoPage MY TRUCK [This message has been edited by johnmustang (edited 09-25-2002).]
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Katherine Journeyman Posts: 41 From: Albany, GA USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted 09-25-2002 04:24 PM
bibbs68 oh I didn't know what was original, haven't had one on the Fairlane I drive, just ignorant. not one one the 67 mustang either.(technical I am not!) thanks, though. I can put it on,no problem. johnmustang Forgot to say I do have a 6 bladed flex fan also. I have experienced high temp at low MPH, and went through all the items you mentioned in the cooling system and only found what I didn't think would matter...one of the transmission cooling lines was pressed right against the lower radiator hose, causing a small indention. I have new waterpump, good flow on the radiator, 185 thermostat, so I re-routed the cooling line. Haven't driven it lately-rear end went out. Thanks for the input.
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Hell_Fish Gearhead Posts: 860 From: Austin, TX. Registered: May 2002
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posted 09-25-2002 04:29 PM
If its a non A/C car it would be a 20" radiator(I think). Most non A/C cars I have seen did not come with a shroud, but luckly the non A/C shrouds are much cheaper than the A/C ones. If you plan on adding A/C later(after market or stock) invest in a larger radiator and a shroud to fit it and a 6 blade fan. Heck, pick up the fan either way you go. Extra cooling never hurts
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mustangs68 Moderator Posts: 21889 From: Buckroe Beach Va MCA#39406 M&M #12 Member Mustang Club of Tidewater Registered: May 99
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posted 09-25-2002 05:11 PM
The only Mustangs I have seen without a shoud are some 170's and 200 cids.Get the shoud it will make a great difference
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