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ewokeric
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posted 09-18-2002 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well of course the job is neve done. After getting it running now the fun stuff. I am at loss. I can't seem to get any power to the turn signal flasher. I have replaced the flasher the headlight switch, and fixed the ground problem at the back tail lights. But when you turn the signals on nothing. If you turn the emergency flashers on, all the light flash fine. If you turn the parking lights on all the light are on. But the funny thing is if you turn the parking lights on, the dash indicator for the right turn signal comes on in the center position. If you push the right turn signal on up and down you can get the lights to flash. but nothing to the left. I also removed the steering wheel to see if the swithch looked broken or burnt. It did not. Another thing is i have 3 extra wires coming off the switch which have no where to go. A red,yellow,brown. Any ideas. I am going to keep looking but I really do not know where to start.

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mustangs68
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posted 09-18-2002 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ewokeric,
I'mm headed out for a Match but as soon as I get home I check my Osborn Electric Book..

If you don't have one suggest you get one..someone said in another Thread you can never have too many books and this one is a list topper
sam

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mustangs68
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posted 09-18-2002 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'l have to send you a picture...words may fail me
sam

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ewokeric
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posted 09-18-2002 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok thanks for the help

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mustangs68
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posted 09-19-2002 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sacnner is down..well I have re-installed it..But I have taken several photos and I cannot get them clear enough to be any help.
I'll see if anyone at works has a scanner and have them scann it for me.
Sorry this is taking so long.
sam

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mustangs68
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posted 09-21-2002 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ewokeric,
You Have Mail
sam

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ewokeric
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posted 09-21-2002 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mustangs68:
ewokeric,
You Have Mail
sam

Thanks, sam i got your email printed it out and will see if it helps me this weekend

thanks again
any ideas you can think of as well

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ewokeric
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posted 09-21-2002 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i pulled the steering wheel off and i have power to the horn circuit like the diagram says. I found a electric book at the store but is still a little hard to dicifer. On the drawing of the 1968 turn signals page, what is the incoming power circuit. I think it is the blue one(44). I do not have power on that one but if you jump to the white/red(385), which has power and i think is the em flasher circuit the turn signals blink like they should only using the hazard flasher. I still have no power at the turn signal flasher. I also noticed that when i turn the head lights on the front parking light goes out but the side markers stay on. Is this the way it is suppose to be or what. ANy help would be appreicated.

eric

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mustangs68
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posted 09-21-2002 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the drawing of the 1968 turn signals page, what is the incoming power circuit. I think it is the blue one(44).

On page 2-E7 I see a 44 which goes to the signal switch but I can't tell the position of it (power on/off)

Check and see if you have power on 44 at the Male/Female connector under the dash.the one that goes up the Steering column

MELLOW you near by..your eyes better than mine?

I do not have power on that one but if you jump to the white/red(385), which has power and i think is the em flasher circuit the turn signals blink like they should only using the hazard flasher.

385 is separte (well it looks like it on this digram).

I still have no power at the turn signal flasher.
Looking at the Flasher on this diagram and tracing the wire it appears to have no number given.
whats the color of the wires that lead to the Flasher?

I also noticed that when i turn the head lights on the front parking light goes out but the side markers stay on. Is this the way it is suppose to be or what.

Been so long since I drove my Fb I can't remember but I think that is correct..the parking lights go off the headlights on and side markers stay on.

I'll drop my brother an e-mail to come here..he's the one I call when I have an electrial problem maybe he can explain it better than I,but it will be Mon. before he checks his e-mail..works with Puters and avoids them on weekends
He also has a 68 convertible so I'm sure he'll be familar with the problem.

sam

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ewokeric
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posted 09-21-2002 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mustangs68:
On the drawing of the 1968 turn signals page, what is the incoming power circuit. I think it is the blue one(44).

On page 2-E7 I see a 44 which goes to the signal switch but I can't tell the position of it (power on/off)

Check and see if you have power on 44 at the Male/Female connector under the dash.the one that goes up the Steering column

MELLOW you near by..your eyes better than mine?

I do not have power on that one but if you jump to the white/red(385), which has power and i think is the em flasher circuit the turn signals blink like they should only using the hazard flasher.

385 is separte (well it looks like it on this digram).

I still have no power at the turn signal flasher.
Looking at the Flasher on this diagram and tracing the wire it appears to have no number given.
whats the color of the wires that lead to the Flasher?

[Ok sam thanks for you help. The color wires going to the turn signal flasher are orange/yellow(8) and blue(44). One the page 2-E7 where is the connection or 296,8,137,140,490 which is located next to the fuse panel. Also i checked the fuses and they where good and was getting 12v on both sides to ground. Again thanks for your help
I will check the blue wire(44) tomorrow to see if i have power.
sam

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mustangs68
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posted 09-21-2002 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The color wires going to the turn signal flasher are orange/yellow(8) and blue(44).

Yes check to be sure you have power along the Bule 44 wire..that seems to be the power as it also goes to the Flasher.I see the 8 & 44 now..I need a telescope to read this book


One the page 2-E7 where is the connection or 296,8,137,140,490 which is located next to the fuse panel.

LOL..I'm getting "dazed and confused" from all these numbers

The Male/Felmale Connector I'm looking at on 2-E7 is upper center right below the fuse box,with coded wires Number (reading from the top to botom) 511/44/5/50/3/9/49/2/385/460/482 on the left side of the connector leading to the Steering Column.

Are you more confused that before..if not you should be


sam

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V8 Thumper
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posted 09-21-2002 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 66MustangGTCoupe289:
my brain will probably explode with all the numbers


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mustangs68
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posted 09-21-2002 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brandon,
These Electrical problem are IMHO the worst problem any Classic Car owner can have.
Past Owners have spliced,cut or removed wiring and it's a PITA to correct some of these past errors short of pulling the entire harness out and replacing it.
The print is so small in these Books and the quality of the paper don't help either.

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ewokeric
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posted 09-22-2002 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well i feel really stupid. I started following the wires around the car that feed the flasher. I checked the fuse and guess what it was corrodied in the fuse block so was not getting a good connection. At least they work now. Sorry sam for all the numbers thing but thanks for all your help. I know to check that stuff first as well instead of assuming that it was making a good connection. Going for a family crusie this evening. thanks again untill the next problem.

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posted 09-22-2002 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's fixed..That's all that count
anytime,
sam

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