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Pierre
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posted 09-02-2002 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone ever experienced a situation where an ignition coil will work enough to run the engine but weakly due to an internal spark "leak" or other. I think mine is going south everything else being new (Promaster coil model). Symptoms are occasional vibrations/lower engine power when coil is hot. I thought these things either worked well or didn't !

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V8 Thumper
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posted 09-02-2002 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may sound kinda strange...

For automotive applications, I've personally had them either working or not; not much middle ground. However, my fleet of concrete saws have had on occasion lazy/erradic ignition sympoms that I've ultimately remedied with a replacement coil. Go figure

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Pierre
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posted 09-02-2002 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey V8 T., up early or late party ?
Thanks for your input, will let ou know the outcome

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Pierre
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posted 09-02-2002 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been roaming the web this morning on the topic and it appears that coil failure is far from being a binary thing. They will PARTLY fail under all kinds of circumstances (engine load, heat, cold, ......) resulting in, sometimes, very hard to diagnose ignition misses.
It is interesting to see how many recent cars outthere are being recalled on this issue !!!

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fastford34
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posted 09-02-2002 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastford34   Click Here to Email fastford34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from experience,heat does strange things to electronic equipment.the real good top notch equipment usually dies,the so-so stuff seems to linger and cause lots of headaches! and of course there is always 1 or 2 good ones that just drive you nuts trying to find the problem cause it works fine until it gets real hot. vibration can mess some of them up also. isnt hot rodding fun?

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V8 Thumper
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posted 09-02-2002 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pierre:
Hey V8 T., up early or late party ?


No such luck My two year old son climbed into bed , then proceded to whoop the crap out of mommy and daddy... he's such a restless sleeper! So I got up for a bowl of cereal and play on the puter for a bit

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Pierre
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posted 09-03-2002 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Temporarely replaced my MSD-6A (brand new) + Promaster coil with a standart ignition set up and it ran much cleaner.....that is until I lost oil pressure (see my other post).
The old coil was indeed my problem

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posted 09-03-2002 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen them fail every way possible.

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MidLifCrisis
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posted 09-03-2002 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MidLifCrisis   Click Here to Email MidLifCrisis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had gotten a used yellow top coil for my '66 Mustang 2+2 and proudly installed it to complete the retro/original look. The next day the car dies on the way to work. I thumb the rest of the way in. I then catch a ride from a co-worker back to the car, and it fires right up. I drive it to within three blocks from home and it dies again. The culprit? The yellow top coil! It would ground or short out or something once the engine got warmed up. Replaced it with a new regular black coil and everything is good. Next time I'm going chrome. Charlie.

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PonyDoc
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posted 09-05-2002 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PonyDoc   Click Here to Email PonyDoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As others have said, they can fail differently. I had a 57 Fairlane with a weak coil that died when hot. My 64 1/5 just went thru 2, as it cut out under load. The one I put in works just fine. All the others were older originals. I think they just start to break down when they get too hot. I put a piece of gasket material under the bracket on this one, and have had no problems.

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