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Pierre
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From: France
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posted 06-17-2002 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know there as been a lot of posts about this but I just need to talk it out & FYI for potential MSD customers
Easy install, started right up, cleaner warm up, great flowing idle, smoother acceleration, better low RPM throttle response (no noticeable improvement at higher RPM ??? or may be it's me !!). Made my wandering Summit tach niddle (previously on negative side of coil) very stable.

Made a happy guy happier

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V8 Thumper
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posted 06-17-2002 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hey Pierre, if you ever need to do any welding on that car, disconnect the ignition control box. I personally would go as far as to remove it as well

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Pierre
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posted 06-17-2002 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOOps !!
I just had a shop rework my rear fender and reminded them to unplug the battery but not to disconnect the unit.

I will know tonight I guess !

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Moneymaker
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posted 06-17-2002 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pierre
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posted 06-17-2002 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still working............... !!!

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fastcomet289
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posted 06-17-2002 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastcomet289   Click Here to Email fastcomet289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you also have the MSD distributor? Also where did you mount yours, I will be getting one soon and i think i am going to mount it behind my glove box or somewhere under my dash and run the wires out through the existing krinkle-tube with my other wires that go to the coil. Like things to look like a sleeper

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Pierre
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posted 06-17-2002 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mallowry Unilite with vaccum advance. For the mounting location, I installed it by the PS pump in the engine comp between the front left shock tower and the voltage regulator. The box is covered with a sealing material so it will survive a little bit of water splashing (as long as it does not seat in water)and is away from a heat source (ie: exhaust !).
For extra safety, I installed small bushings between the boxe and the engine comp. MSD does not recommend to mount it inside (glove boxes) for cooling reasons, wires length & increased electrical resistance. The radio may get a rash too
Here is the pdf file for more instructions:
www.msdignition.com/downld1.htm

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fastcomet289
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posted 06-17-2002 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastcomet289   Click Here to Email fastcomet289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i would like to mount it somewhere unseen, like maybe where you did, but on the inside of the fender, as long as rocks and water do not hit it from the tire. Where's a good hiding spot?

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mustangs68
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posted 06-17-2002 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glovebox..I don't use it for gloves
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460-67Stang
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posted 06-17-2002 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 460-67Stang   Click Here to Email 460-67Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pierre,
Thanks for sharing your experience on the MSD unit. I'm about to switch from a stock Duraspark ignition to an MSD 6AL. I ran the Duraspark just to get on the road. Time to upgrade!! Glad to hear you like yours.
Brian

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Pierre
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posted 06-18-2002 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pierre   Click Here to Email Pierre     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fastcomet289:
i would like to mount it somewhere unseen, like maybe where you did, but on the inside of the fender, as long as rocks and water do not hit it from the tire. Where's a good hiding spot?



The location you mentionned gets a lot of water projections & debris, you will need to make a protection boxe & make sure that it will allow water to drain !!
Another spot may be under the battery, some people did put it under the dash anyway and it runs but I would not !!
At this point, your guess is as good as mine


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fastcomet289
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posted 06-18-2002 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastcomet289   Click Here to Email fastcomet289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe there is a way to make one of my fresh air inlets in the interior blow air past it to keep it cool. ill work on it.

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fastford34
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posted 06-18-2002 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastford34   Click Here to Email fastford34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am running the msd 6al w/mallory unilite distributor also. definitely helped at idle,i was able to open up the plug gap,plugs last longer,tune up less often. at high rpm,no miss,sputter,etc. i recommend you install the mallory surge protector for the unilite. this is in a 34 ford street rod,under hood temps are a bit high,so the msd is mounted inside under the dash. try to mount it where you will not need longer wires,if you do need longer wires,msd tells you how to do it right(tech line 915 855 7123). good luck and if needed i`ll try to help answer any questions.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 06-19-2002 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The temperature under the hood would be a lot higher than that under the dash! I?ve had 6A on my FB under the dash for 14 years with no problems. I want to put a 6AL under the dash of my coupe but there is a lack of room because of the AC. I guess I?ll have to look at the glove box.

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460-67Stang
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posted 06-19-2002 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 460-67Stang   Click Here to Email 460-67Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the comments here about water and the MSD unit......MSD says it's already waterproofed and recommends against putting the unit in a box since it may hold moisture.

FWIW,
Brian

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MASTIFF
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posted 06-19-2002 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MASTIFF   Click Here to Email MASTIFF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just stuck a MSD6AL, MSD Blaster2 Coil, MSD Billet Dist, and new 8.8mm wires on my 72' last month. There was a night and day difference when I stuck mine on; althought I believe my stock dist was not advancing right because I had to run alot of initial advance. I also put on a MSD tach adapter to get my factory tach to work; which was easy to install. Fastcommet do you have a question about the MSD dist? I love mine. It seems to work really well and it was real easy to set the advance curve.

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fastcomet289
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posted 06-19-2002 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastcomet289   Click Here to Email fastcomet289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its good to hear such positive feedback on the MSD system. there is plenty of room under the dash of the comet for 5 msd units!! so there will be no problem there, as far as the distributor, which cap do you have, the wide spaced one or the regular, which is better?

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RonnieT
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posted 06-20-2002 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RonnieT   Click Here to Email RonnieT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the MSD Pro Billet small base distributor, MSD 8.5 MM wires, and a 7 digital box on my 351W. The distributor is the same size as a points type OEM unit. The cap has the "spark plug" style terminals and works great. There are some clearance issues with certain intake manifolds and the large base MSD units, but I don't remember which intake it is. When I installed the system last year the engine ran much better and it help reduce my detonation problems.

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460-67Stang
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posted 06-20-2002 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 460-67Stang   Click Here to Email 460-67Stang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received my new 6AL from Jegs today!

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fastcomet289
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posted 06-20-2002 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastcomet289   Click Here to Email fastcomet289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I eventually want to get a 351w in my comet that now has a 289. Are the Distributors different for the 289-302 and the 351W.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 06-21-2002 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fastcomet289:
Are the Distributors different for the 289-302 and the 351W.



YES!!!

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Robert K
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posted 06-21-2002 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert K   Click Here to Email Robert K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a 65 fastback with a basically stock 302 with the stock ignition system. What would I need to convert over to the MSD-6A system. Do I need just the box or the complete distributor as well.

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fastford34
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posted 06-21-2002 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastford34   Click Here to Email fastford34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ROBERT K you can install just the box unit to run your car.then you can upgrade the coil and distributor later.check it out online at:
www.msdignition.com
in my opinion,you get better results using all the componets together. good luck.

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