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Mpcoluv
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posted 06-13-2002 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am currently installing a montecarlo bar on my '69 coupe.
One home on each side does not match up with the existing shock tower bolts.
Should I just use the shock tower hole as a guide and drill from the wheel side?
Has anyone else experienced this problem?

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fastcomet289
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posted 06-13-2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fastcomet289     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you might need to take the weight off of the front end because the chasis is flexing and not allowing it to line up.

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67coupe
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posted 06-13-2002 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my 67 had that problem come to find out it will fit a 65-66 fine u know those fit all parts that dont really fit all ijust drilled it out

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posted 06-13-2002 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is pretty common. I would as suggested, lift the front end up and place the car on stands under the front sub frames. That should push the shock towers inward enough. Remember, that is the entire purpose of the Monte Carlo bar in the first place.

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70SportsRoof
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posted 06-13-2002 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
That is pretty common. I would as suggested, lift the front end up and place the car on stands under the front sub frames. That should push the shock towers inward enough. Remember, that is the entire purpose of the Monte Carlo bar in the first place.


So, how would you push out the shock towers? I have a bar for my '70, but the towers are about 3/4-1" too close. Would I get them to spread by lifting the car? If so, where do I place the jack/jackstands to get the front to spread a little?

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Mpcoluv
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posted 06-13-2002 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mpcoluv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moneymaker:
That is pretty common. I would as suggested, lift the front end up and place the car on stands under the front sub frames. That should push the shock towers inward enough. Remember, that is the entire purpose of the Monte Carlo bar in the first place.


The bar goes in fine, just the lower hole is about .600 off from the shock tower hole.
I'll try the jack stand method but I don't think that will work....

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Billgear
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posted 06-13-2002 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billgear     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine was the same way, bar was down all the way and the bolts missed by a mile. I drilled new holes.

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mellowyellow
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posted 06-13-2002 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mention shock tower bolts but call it a Monte Carlo bar. Are you talking about an export brace- which attaches to the shock towers. They really weren't made for the 69-70 but they do fit. Recently saw a 69 cv that had an export brace cut in half at the cowl, spread about 1/2" and bolted separately. Taking weight off the wheels and using a porta power should help. Josh: monte carlo bars come in 4 different applications 65/6. 67/8 etc. Using the brace and the bar together is a huge improvement and takes a lot of strain off of shock towers.

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jkilroy
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posted 06-13-2002 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jkilroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 67/68 bar I purchased from NPD didn't fit, and I double checked the part number. The width was correct but the holes were nowhere near the bolts. Pretty much it is either drill functional holes or make a new bar, your choice.

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posted 06-14-2002 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.600 or over 1/2 inch off is not a matter of caved in shock towers. .100 or so yes, but not that much. Drill new holes.

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skips69
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posted 06-14-2002 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for skips69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some difficulty installing the one piece export brace, but eventually got it on alright. My Monte-Carlo bar fit with no problems afterwards, but you have to drill holes for it regardless don't you? I was nowhere near a bolt hole for the Monte-Carlo bar on my 69'.

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joer
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posted 06-14-2002 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are no fun. When I installed my new export brace, I could not get it in to save me! I ended up getting it in but had to have the front of the ground, jacking it here, and there. It took me and a buddy a little while with that darn thing.

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