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Topic: access to cowl area
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ewokeric
Gearhead Posts: 159
From: woodbridge, va united states
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 04-28-2002 05:26 PM
  
well it rained today and i left the cover off to see where the water was coming in and i think the windsheild and or the cowl is leaking. As there was water in the car. I need to know now to remove the cowl to get to it, it is full of old leaves and junk and how do you remove the windshield moolding with out damaging it or is that impossible. I can see the water in the windshield seal if i push on it so i know it is leaking. Any help would be appericated.
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68 mustang coupe(california special)not real though but looks it(will be nice) 351w/c4
http://erics68coupe.mustangsandmore.ws
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67fastback2+2
Journeyman Posts: 92
From: Pennsville,New Jersey
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 04-28-2002 06:59 PM
I can tell you that a proper repair takes time and alot of effort. Here is a site with some good info to give an idea what is involved. I did my own 67 and being a shadetree mechanic it took me about 80 hours to get things right. I will never have to worry about it ever again. Now I laugh at the plastic covers!! 
http://eolson1111.tripod.com/mustang2/id5.html
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mustangs68
Moderator Posts: 16507
From: Hampton,Virginia,USA MCA#39406 M&M #12
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-29-2002 02:05 PM
132 spot welds.... 
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 5469
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-29-2002 03:08 PM
Give or take!! That was an interesting site. That guy illustrates that it can be done.
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joe
Gearhead Posts: 482
From: Los Angeles
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 05-03-2002 10:25 PM
YOu guys know how much it would run to have a pro do the work? I can't weld. 
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joe
Gearhead Posts: 482
From: Los Angeles
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 05-03-2002 10:27 PM
Aren't the plastic covers meant to keep leaves and trash out? With a sealed cowl area, wouldn't it be a good idea to leave one on when it's parked, just in case?
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67fastback2+2
Journeyman Posts: 92
From: Pennsville,New Jersey
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 05-03-2002 10:44 PM
I installed a screen(non metal) under the cowl grill to keep out wasps and spiders should also help with leaves ect. I heard that it is very expensive, I bought a mig outfit @ Home Depot($400.00) and did the work myself. Mig welding is not hard to do and you get a great sense of accomplishment. I got most of my usful info searching sites like this one!! Good Luck Pete
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71RESTO
Gearhead Posts: 1243
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-03-2002 11:57 PM
The Clear plastic cowl vent covers (the ones with the foam seals) work awesome as a stop gap measure. We put one on my daughters '66 because the vent cap (top hat) is loose and leaks when it rains. She uses the car at college and it sits more than it gets driven. Anyway, it's been two years now and no more leaks!!
As for cost of a professional cowl repair, I looked into this for my '71 (which needs the lower pan replaced) and was quoted anywhere from $1200-$1500 for a drop off/pick up job. One guy (the $1500 one) said he would cut the price down to $700 if I peeled off the hood, fenders, windshield and dash myself before dropping it off. Still trying to decide if I want to give this one a shot myself!!!
Hope this helps!!------------------
Duane
71 Fastback (his) under resto (351C-4V C6 auto)
73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed)
66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's)
89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's)
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mustangboy
Gearhead Posts: 462
From: Ont, Canada
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-04-2002 01:06 AM
Use a garden hose and carefully run it along the windshield to see if that is where your getting the leak,you don't want any water getting into the cowl area so cover it with plastic or whatever.I thought I had a cowl leak but a previous owner replaced the windshield and not the seal.I had a new seal installed with lots of sealer and no more leaks.After you check the windshield hold the hose directly into the cowl opening to see if it leaks as well.Hopefully its just the windshield.
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74merc
Gearhead Posts: 733
From: Demopolis AL
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-04-2002 11:27 PM
I just started on mine... I may go ahead and tear it down... dunno yet.
I treated it with some acid stuff, chemically changes rust. Then sprayed undercoating on the inside and outside as much as I could. I'm debating on pouring some undercoating stuff down the cowl with buckets under the car to catch the runoff, and repeat until I'm tired.
I may go ahead, the dash is almost completely out now...------------------
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74merc
Gearhead Posts: 733
From: Demopolis AL
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-04-2002 11:31 PM
btw, what is the hole on the drivers side for? I found a nice rust spot on mine, sort of like it was put there on purpose, but I can think of no reason for it...
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68stang351
Gearhead Posts: 265
From: Savoy TX, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-05-2002 12:01 PM
Where do you find these cowl covers? I need one too.------------------
Hoofbeats are louder than Heartbeats!
68 Coupe, soon to have 351W and 5speed.
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71RESTO
Gearhead Posts: 1243
From: Oregon, USA
Registered: Oct 2000
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posted 05-05-2002 12:17 PM
MOst any mustangs parts house will carry the covers, but if I remember correctly we got ours from "National Parts Depot" (either that or Virginia Classic Mustang). I think they run in the $35 dollar price range (memory fails me again), but worth every cent.------------------
Duane
71 Fastback (his) under resto (351C-4V C6 auto)
73 Mach 1 (hers) (351CJ 4 speed)
66 289/2V coupe (daughter Ashley's)
89 LX 2.3 convertible (daughter Amanda's)
M & M Member #730
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ewokeric
Gearhead Posts: 159
From: woodbridge, va united states
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 05-05-2002 06:19 PM
thanks for the replys guys i will try the water hose test this week and clean the cowl area out. I will most likely get a cowl cover anyway even if it does not leak so it won't. Are those things water tight as well or what. Again thanks for the replys------------------
68 mustang coupe(california special)not real though but looks it(will be nice) 351w/c4
erics68coupe.mustangsandmore.ws
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 5469
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 05-05-2002 06:54 PM
Someting have noticed re cowl coverz: a noticeable "ring" around the opening, do the sponge rubber gssket. They CAN discolor the paint. In reality there's no substitute for a correct repair. If you do the hose test don't do it at high pressure. You could overflow the cowl allowing water to flow over the air dams. giving an untrue reading.
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