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skips69
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posted 04-15-2002 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skips69   Click Here to Email skips69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a set from a 1968 Coupe. They have C7Z part numbers - for a 67? The car is definately a 68', has front and rear side marker lights, rearview mirror on the windshield, correct qtr panel trim, etc. The catalog's show 1967 window regulators being different from 1968, is there a difference? Any idea why these have a C7Z part number if they are? Thanks for any responses, just curious.

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-15-2002 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So am I. The handles were different but never thought it made a difference in the regulator. Can't think of any but the catalog DOES show different numbers.

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Fastback68
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posted 04-15-2002 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Osborn's '68 body manual, the '68 regulators had a C8Z assembly number. However, I can't find any part number. I know for a fact that some C8Z assemblies used exclusively C7Z parts. I have three sets of '68 doors, so I'll take a look at the regulators if no one answers you soon. Is the part number easy to find?

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skips69
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posted 04-16-2002 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for skips69   Click Here to Email skips69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The part number was on the small end, can't remember off hand if on the main assembly or on one of the arms. It is easy to find though.

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mustangs68
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posted 04-16-2002 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mustangs68   Click Here to Email mustangs68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We put "68's" in a 67 when the son got the 67 and stripped the rusted out 68.

I Didn't look at the part numbers & he put them in

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Fastback68
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posted 04-17-2002 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I just checked the risers on two doors from a latish '68, both original as far as I know. (I took them from a rusted out but unrestored car.) When I say "latish", it had the post-February reflectors at the back. Anyway, without removing the risers I can see C7Z part numbers on both of them.
I see from the NPD catalog that '67 and '68 risers are supposedly different. Maybe Ricks will stop by and explain why.

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skips69
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posted 04-17-2002 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for skips69   Click Here to Email skips69     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This car had the rectangular rear marker lights, so it is an early model. I had considered that as a possibility. The doors are original to this car, the door tag matches the VIN on the dash and title, so they are not from a 67'. I thought of that as well. Now I have the rear qtr window regulators out. They show that 65-67 are the same, but mention nothing about the 68's. They skip 68 and go right into 69-70's in the catalogs. 68's are unique for that one year only? Getting more curious.....

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horseballz
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posted 04-17-2002 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for horseballz   Click Here to Email horseballz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If my memory serves me right, I believe that the main difference between '67&'68 is that on one year, the rollers are replaceable as a seperate item and on the other (I think '68) the rollers are part of the assembly and must be replaced as such. If anyone can confirm that this is the only difference and that they are otherwise interchangeable, it would be extremely helpful as the regulators for '67 seem to be easier to find and I have a '68 Coupe that needs 3 out of 4 replaced. I hope this helps more than confuses.

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-17-2002 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re the 1/4 windows: The 65/66 has smaller rollers than 67/up. Am not sure about 68(without looking) but the 67 is NOT replaceable. I have 67 1/4 windows and backing plates in my 65. The original windows were damaged. Going to a Mustang shop this afternoon, will try to get an answer for that

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67fastback2+2
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posted 04-17-2002 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67fastback2+2   Click Here to Email 67fastback2+2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am in the process of swaping doors: my original is C6 and the replacement door(from a 68 coup) is stamped C7. I am using the original regulator, wing assembly stamped C6. Both set ups look the same eccept the glass in a fastback is rounded and the coup is squared. I haven't closed up the door yet the window needs alignedbut it seems to work fine!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 04-19-2002 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't we run into this before and find the difference is the length of the window crank shaft to accomodate different thickness in door panels?

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mellowyellow
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posted 04-19-2002 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That applies to 65-6 door panels with and without pony interior. And that part is not on the regulator itself.

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67coupe
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posted 04-23-2002 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67coupe   Click Here to Email 67coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not sure bout the front but the rear regulators are diff the late 67 and 68 had non replacable rollers and mid 67 back had replacable atleast that is what the lady at a local mustang salvge yrd told me and she seems to know her stuff real well

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68 S-code GT
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posted 04-25-2002 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took some doors off a 67 once and put them on a 68. I don?t know if the 67 had the deluxe int. but the shat that the window crank goes on was longer than the 68.

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