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fly75
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From: eastpointe,mi,usa
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posted 03-30-2002 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fly75   Click Here to Email fly75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a 69 351w in my gt/cs with a 302 firing order,does that mean i have a cam for a 289/302? and a harmonic balancer? i would like to replace the harmonic balancer,not sure if its the original balancer,with a newer one. any recommendations on the balancer?also if i replace the cam to get a 351w firing order what else do i need to change? thanks a lot.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-30-2002 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Fly... here's your firing orders
*- Ford 5.0L HO, 351W, 351M, 351C, 400 Counter-clockwise 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
*- Ford 289, 302 Counter-clockwise 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8

If you've got the 'early' sequence, then yes. Someone put an early cam in it. It won't hurt anything, although the late firing order is suposedly easier on the crank. The balancer is independent of the cam; it's matched to the flywheel.

To change the cam, all you need is a kit (cam, lifters and break-in lube), gaskets, and a harmonic balancer puller. I'd highly recomend a new timing set while you're that far in, though. No need to change anything else.

Email Alex about the parts. He's got all kinds of good stuff... he's probably got several choices for a balancer if in fact you want to change it also.

[This message has been edited by V8 Thumper (edited 03-30-2002).]

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-30-2002 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up until very recently most of the cam maufacturers only offered 351W cams in the 289 firing order anyway. It does not hurt a thing. The only reason FoMoCo introduced the other firing order anyway was to reduce the number 7-8 cylinder crossfire problems.

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fly75
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posted 03-30-2002 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fly75   Click Here to Email fly75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so i could change the harmonic balancer without having to change cams?also is the harmonic balancer the same on the 289/302/351w? thanks

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Moneymaker
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posted 03-30-2002 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would you want to change the balancer? Do you have a vibration problem? If it is worn and you feel that it warrants replacment, you can use almost any 28 oz SBF balancer.

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fly75
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posted 03-31-2002 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fly75   Click Here to Email fly75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, thanks a lot for the info!now i dont have to change the balancer. thanks again.

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ewokeric
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posted 03-31-2002 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ewokeric   Click Here to Email ewokeric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a 351w with a 302 firing order and it seems to work fine. AT least at this point i think it is a little werid but it works.

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