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catman_45
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From: Moscow, ID, USA
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posted 03-26-2002 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catman_45   Click Here to Email catman_45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright, now that I got my car, I need some suggestions on what type of intake and carb to put on it. I'll bore the 351 to probably 30 over to clean up the cylinders. I'm looking for good torque performance here, I gotta beat the ricers off the line. I also am looking for long life, I don't wanna have to keep replacing the engine every ten thousand miles. So whadda y'all think?

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1966 Coupe w/ 351 Windsor, BM Slap shifter, aqua blue, dual exhaust with turbo mufflers

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steve'66
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posted 03-26-2002 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catman,

That's real easy,

Edelbrock Performer RPM with a Holley 750 vac secondary on top.


SteveW

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richard bohm
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From: tucson,az-luray,va
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posted 03-27-2002 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
steve is right. edelbrock performer or rpm intake(depends on what cam you run), and 600-750 carb(again depending on the cam). carb can be edelbrock or holley, your choice. mine gets an edelbrock.

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Tom351
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posted 03-29-2002 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom351   Click Here to Email Tom351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be careful with hood clearance if you are using a stock hood. I had to use a TorkerII on my 351W in a 67.

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67 Fastback - Arctic White Pearl paint
351W ,Trick Flow Aluminum Heads, Edelbrock TorkerII, Carter 750 CFM, Comp. Cam 477/510 219/[email protected], Performance Automatic C-4 Trans, 3.55 gears, Front Disc Brakes, 1-1/8" Fr. 3/4" rear sway bars.

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VonYount
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posted 04-06-2002 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VonYount   Click Here to Email VonYount     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hood clearance shouldn't be an issue with the Performer RPM--that's what tops my 351w in my '66. I have a Holley 600cfm, and the combo suits me just fine--'cept for my rear gears...but I spin the tires enough as it is, deeper gears would get me in more trouble...

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68stang351
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From: Savoy TX, USA
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posted 04-06-2002 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68stang351   Click Here to Email 68stang351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
performer RPM, I just got mine in yesterday for my 351W. Now I just need to get it in the car and see how it runs.

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68stang351
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posted 04-06-2002 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68stang351   Click Here to Email 68stang351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VonYount, how does your car run? It sounds very similar (sp?) to what I'm doing. '94 351W with performer RPM and a Holley 650. Think it will run ok?
BTW, T5 5speed and 3.2? gears. (i can't remember, its 3.20 or .21 or .27 or something like that).

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richard bohm
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posted 04-06-2002 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
68stang351 you likely have a 3.25 gear. with the 3.35 first gear in the T5 you will likely have traction problems. my 66 will get a 2.78 first gear top loader and 2.80 rear gears. with 400 clydsdales under the hood i will also have traction problems.

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VonYount
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posted 04-06-2002 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VonYount   Click Here to Email VonYount     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Car runs well--she's a beast! There's really no place in the city where I can open her up, though--Sears Point's Wed. night drags are opening up in a couple of weeks, so I'll take her up and put her through the paces. I need to attach my overflow can and install a neutral safety switch first.

As far as the engine combo, I'm very pleased. I had a problem with my points very recently, and since I fixed it, it's been a pleasure to drive. With that engine combo under the hood, I fear NO OTHER CAR on the road (even without a tranny kick-down lever).

I've only had a few straight-up street races (not a good idea, DON'T race on the STREET!), but I won all of them--I'm anxious to get a quarter-mile number on it.

I have Hedman "swap" shorty headers, and a Comp Cams 268H cam. I'm happy with the set-up, though I may think about Aftermarket heads when I finally get a 1/4mile time...

My Holley is also Mechanical secondaries--but I haven't had any problems with it--although some people still look at it, and then remark "how do you run the car without a choke?"

I think your setup will run better than mine, actually. Even though you'll be pushing a little more weight with that '68 body, the T5 and deeper gears will get you where you're going (as long as you have adequate traction). If you haven't noticed in some of my other posts, I am running 2.49 gears. Yes, 2.49 gears. And it still breaks 'em loose when I goose it. Oh well.

Ryan

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'66 Mustang Coupe
--351W
--black spot primer
--steel wheels

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steve'66
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posted 04-06-2002 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ryan,

Let me know when you're going to SP I'll be going as a spectator until early May. The engine builder is in Hawaii on vacation 'til the 15th. soooo LOL

Anyway catman_45 is getting everything from Melissa's 351w including the RPM heads, intake, 750 holley, 282s cam, distributor, rotating assly, headers, etc. So he should be running 12 flats maybe high 11's this summer! I gotta crate the stuff up and get it on it's way to him. I know he'll be real happy with the parts! I'm not sure he realizes how cheap he got them. But that's fine, as long as he enjoys them!

SteveW

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catman_45
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posted 04-07-2002 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catman_45   Click Here to Email catman_45     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve, I do realize how cheap they are, and thanks a bunch for putting up with my questions. I looked up those heads your selling to me, over a grand for a pair on the net. Still leaves me poor though oh wait, I've got my mustang, I can never be poor with it! Man I love that car now, can't wait for it to actually move faster than any rice car (I've already beat my friends Acura Integra with the tired ol' stock 351W in it). I love this forum too, kudos to whoever started it.

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1966 Coupe w/ 351 Windsor, BM Slap shifter, aqua blue, dual exhaust with turbo mufflers

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dhearn
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From: Owenton Ky,USA
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posted 04-07-2002 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dhearn   Click Here to Email dhearn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what I am running now:
69 351w
stock heads
flat top pistons (compression ratio 10.7:1)
Holley street avenger 670 cfm
msd distributer
msd 6al
hooker competition headers
comp cams 270h
toploader 4speed (wide ratio)
300:1 gear ratio
after finally throwing away my junk autolite distributer and getting rid of my miss it really runs great. When I am in first or second gear I had better be prepared when I crack the throttle because it gets squirrly real quick. it is a little better now that I replaced the tires I am running BF Goodrich 255-60/15's on the back and 235-60/15's on the front. Soon I will be installing new Edelbrock performer 2.02 heads w/roller rockers and an air gap performer rpm manifold i will let you know how it performs.

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1969 MACH 1 (with no miss)
THE FEEL AND SOUND OF A FORD V-8 IS ALL THE DRUGS A MAN NEEDS

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steve'66
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posted 04-07-2002 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steve'66   Click Here to Email steve'66     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by catman_45:
Steve, I do realize how cheap they are, and thanks a bunch for putting up with my questions. I looked up those heads your selling to me, over a grand for a pair on the net. Still leaves me poor though oh wait, I've got my mustang, I can never be poor with it! Man I love that car now, can't wait for it to actually move faster than any rice car (I've already beat my friends Acura Integra with the tired ol' stock 351W in it). I love this forum too, kudos to whoever started it.



Glad to help out.

The onlt ricer's you'll need to fear are on the movie The Fast and the Furious, and I think they crashed all of them. Besides, they were just a figment of Hollywood's imagination.

SteveW

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VonYount
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posted 04-08-2002 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VonYount   Click Here to Email VonYount     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve,

yup, I'll let you know for sure...I have only been up as a spectator myself, so I'll need a few "newbie" tips, so I can make less of an embarrassment out of myself.

I'm gonna try to get my neutral safety switch and overflow tank hooked up this week...

-Ryan

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'66 Mustang Coupe
--351W
--black spot primer
--steel wheels

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70 Pony
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From: Glenmoore, PA, USA
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posted 04-08-2002 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70 Pony   Click Here to Email 70 Pony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catman....I run a 30 over 351 W with an EBrock Perf RPM intake and a 750 Holley double pumper with no choke..Also a Comp 268 EXTREME ENERGY cam, with TFS heads.....I love it and find the DP'er very streetable...but with gas prices pushing $2 tough on the wallet.
I didn't read all the responses but DUMP THE POINTS...either get a Pertronix or a new Electronic Distributor....
I run a Mallory Vac Secondary...
One thing about the Perf RPM that I had a problem with..the last runner on the passenger side has a vacuum port. I was using it for the P/B booster and was getting backfires. Replumbed the vacuum lines, closed the port and bought a Crane Vacuun Reserve can.....end of problem.,..

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EDDIE D
Resto Mod '70 Sport Roof
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