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Topic: Sticky Keepers
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 521
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-21-2002 09:33 PM
   
Any other suggestions on how to loosen the valve keepers on this 289 I��m working on? I used the socket and mallet routine but only 13 out of 16 came off. I just spent the last hour whacking on these three with no results. 
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richard bohm
Gearhead Posts: 370
From: tucson,az-luray,va
Registered: May 2001
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posted 03-21-2002 09:38 PM
try a little penetrating oil on the keepers. let it sit for about 5 min and try it again.
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 521
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-22-2002 07:16 AM
Do you think that will work? They are not rusted on, just jammed in there a little tighter. I was thinking of applying some heat!
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Originally posted by richard bohm:
try a little penetrating oil on the keepers. let it sit for about 5 min and try it again.
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 521
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-23-2002 09:27 AM
Are there any Techs out there that might have a tip or two? The penetrating oil didn��t work.It��s a nice day here and would like to work on the car. My wife is trying to talk me into going to Home Cheapo!
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 24286
From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-23-2002 04:38 PM
You're trying to take it apart without a spring compressor, huh? All I can say is keep pounding. Also, put some wood on the valve face side to limit it's travel while you wail away.  ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 1460
From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-23-2002 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You're trying to take it apart without a spring compressor, huh? All I can say is keep pounding.
I bought my valvespring compressor from Sears for under $20... money well spent, if you ask me 
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 24286
From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-23-2002 04:58 PM
I have two, a Sears that I never use {it twists like crazy and the claw that holds the retainer likes to spread apart}, and a Snap-On that's worth it's weight in gold. {that one works like a dream} ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
MCA Member # 47773 I love being married. It's so great to find that one special person you want to annoy for the rest of your life. [This message has been edited by SteveLaRiviere (edited 03-23-2002).]
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 1460
From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-23-2002 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I have two, a Sears that I never use, {POS} and a Snap-On that's worth it's weight in gold.
How much did you pay for the Snap-On compressor? (that guy owns me as it is  ) The Sears unit is nothing to write home about, but beats the hell out of bending valves with the mallet
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 24286
From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-23-2002 05:08 PM
Be careful with the Sears one. I've ruined valve stems with mine when it twisted unexpectedly. I lucked into my Snap-On, I bought it used along with an exhaust gas analyzer from a retired tech for $50. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
MCA Member # 47773 I love being married. It's so great to find that one special person you want to annoy for the rest of your life.
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V8 Thumper
Gearhead Posts: 1460
From: Orange, Ca. United States of America
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 03-23-2002 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I lucked into my Snap-On, I bought it used along with an exhaust gas analyzer from a retired tech for $50.
That's gotta be $300 worth of gear 
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SteveLaRiviere
Administrator Posts: 24286
From: Saco, Maine Toys: '70 Mustang Mach 1 - '72 Mustang Sprint - '94 F-150
Registered: May 99
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posted 03-23-2002 05:16 PM
Yeah, except the probe on the analyzer died the first time I used it. ------------------
'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
MCA Member # 47773 I love being married. It's so great to find that one special person you want to annoy for the rest of your life.
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 521
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-24-2002 09:14 AM
No, it actually won't work either. The keepers are jammed in there so tight that the spring compressor will not work.
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You're trying to take it apart without a spring compressor, huh? All I can say is keep pounding. Also, put some wood on the valve face side to limit it's travel while you wail away.
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Rustang
Gearhead Posts: 276
From: Dubois PA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-24-2002 11:40 AM
get a 5/8" spark plug socket and a small ball peen hammer and give 'em a hit! (Put a small block of wood that'll fit inside the combustion chamber to keep the valves from lifting from their seats.) If the valve retainers are those pesky two-piece style, simple find a socket small enough to fit just on the inner retainer only and tap them loose. THEN use the spring compressor. Guarranteed to work!!------------------
'68 mustang 351 clevor- 10.92@124
'67 Stang, 351W -11.18@118
'69 351C Torino-14.90@100
'78 Pickup 351W-15.56@88
'79 Pickup 460 ET=??
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 521
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-24-2002 09:42 PM
That��s pretty much what I did but I��ll try out the small socket idea tomorrow after work
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Originally posted by Rustang:
get a 5/8" spark plug socket and a small ball peen hammer and give 'em a hit! (Put a small block of wood that'll fit inside the combustion chamber to keep the valves from lifting from their seats.) If the valve retainers are those pesky two-piece style, simple find a socket small enough to fit just on the inner retainer only and tap them loose. THEN use the spring compressor. Guarranteed to work!!
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68 S-code GT
Gearhead Posts: 521
From: Sayreville, NJ, US
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-26-2002 07:05 AM
Well, I don��t know if it was the smaller socket or the metal to metal contact that changed the shock pattern, but it worked. I could have spent the next year whacking it with a plastic mallet! 
quote:
Originally posted by Rustang:
get a 5/8" spark plug socket and a small ball peen hammer and give 'em a hit! (Put a small block of wood that'll fit inside the combustion chamber to keep the valves from lifting from their seats.) If the valve retainers are those pesky two-piece style, simple find a socket small enough to fit just on the inner retainer only and tap them loose. THEN use the spring compressor. Guarranteed to work!!
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