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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-21-2002 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any other suggestions on how to loosen the valve keepers on this 289 Iím working on? I used the socket and mallet routine but only 13 out of 16 came off. I just spent the last hour whacking on these three with no results.

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richard bohm
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posted 03-21-2002 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for richard bohm   Click Here to Email richard bohm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try a little penetrating oil on the keepers. let it sit for about 5 min and try it again.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-22-2002 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think that will work? They are not rusted on, just jammed in there a little tighter. I was thinking of applying some heat!
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Originally posted by richard bohm:
try a little penetrating oil on the keepers. let it sit for about 5 min and try it again.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-23-2002 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are there any Techs out there that might have a tip or two? The penetrating oil didnít work.

Itís a nice day here and would like to work on the car. My wife is trying to talk me into going to Home Cheapo!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-23-2002 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're trying to take it apart without a spring compressor, huh? All I can say is keep pounding. Also, put some wood on the valve face side to limit it's travel while you wail away.

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-23-2002 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You're trying to take it apart without a spring compressor, huh? All I can say is keep pounding.

I bought my valvespring compressor from Sears for under $20... money well spent, if you ask me

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-23-2002 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have two, a Sears that I never use {it twists like crazy and the claw that holds the retainer likes to spread apart}, and a Snap-On that's worth it's weight in gold. {that one works like a dream}

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V8 Thumper
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posted 03-23-2002 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
I have two, a Sears that I never use, {POS} and a Snap-On that's worth it's weight in gold.


How much did you pay for the Snap-On compressor? (that guy owns me as it is ) The Sears unit is nothing to write home about, but beats the hell out of bending valves with the mallet

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posted 03-23-2002 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be careful with the Sears one. I've ruined valve stems with mine when it twisted unexpectedly.

I lucked into my Snap-On, I bought it used along with an exhaust gas analyzer from a retired tech for $50.

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posted 03-23-2002 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:

I lucked into my Snap-On, I bought it used along with an exhaust gas analyzer from a retired tech for $50.


That's gotta be $300 worth of gear


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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 03-23-2002 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, except the probe on the analyzer died the first time I used it.

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-24-2002 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it actually won't work either. The keepers are jammed in there so tight that the spring compressor will not work.
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Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
You're trying to take it apart without a spring compressor, huh? All I can say is keep pounding. Also, put some wood on the valve face side to limit it's travel while you wail away.


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Rustang
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posted 03-24-2002 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rustang   Click Here to Email Rustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
get a 5/8" spark plug socket and a small ball peen hammer and give 'em a hit! (Put a small block of wood that'll fit inside the combustion chamber to keep the valves from lifting from their seats.) If the valve retainers are those pesky two-piece style, simple find a socket small enough to fit just on the inner retainer only and tap them loose. THEN use the spring compressor. Guarranteed to work!!

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-24-2002 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thatís pretty much what I did but Iíll try out the small socket idea tomorrow after work
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Originally posted by Rustang:
get a 5/8" spark plug socket and a small ball peen hammer and give 'em a hit! (Put a small block of wood that'll fit inside the combustion chamber to keep the valves from lifting from their seats.) If the valve retainers are those pesky two-piece style, simple find a socket small enough to fit just on the inner retainer only and tap them loose. THEN use the spring compressor. Guarranteed to work!!


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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-26-2002 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I donít know if it was the smaller socket or the metal to metal contact that changed the shock pattern, but it worked. I could have spent the next year whacking it with a plastic mallet!
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Originally posted by Rustang:
get a 5/8" spark plug socket and a small ball peen hammer and give 'em a hit! (Put a small block of wood that'll fit inside the combustion chamber to keep the valves from lifting from their seats.) If the valve retainers are those pesky two-piece style, simple find a socket small enough to fit just on the inner retainer only and tap them loose. THEN use the spring compressor. Guarranteed to work!!


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