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quinn
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posted 03-06-2002 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinn   Click Here to Email quinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have been mixing the gas in my 69 302 2bbl with lead for the crazy reason that when i bought her, i found lead additive in the trunk. do you guys still mix? i ran a tank with out and she "seemed" to run better. what do you guys think?

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johnmustang
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posted 03-06-2002 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You really don,t need it , if you are concerned about ping or pong , just run a mid or high grade gas. The lead was just used as an anti knock agent , by raising the octane-level of the fuel. It also helped to avoid exhaust valve recession ( sink or seat wear ), but , you don,t have to worry about this with your motor , unless you run it hard for many extended periods of time , and , under a constant load. Don,t waste your money on additives , you don,t need them. If and when, you get your motor re-built , have the hardened valve seats put in , and , you will never have to worry or wonder about it again. These are just my own opinions , so , check with a few of the other members to get other opinions , then make your own informed choice.

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Fastback68
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posted 03-06-2002 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the US, I believe John is right. It depends on the gas available. Where are you from quinn? In the UK the story is a little different ... we have some oddball gas there now, and the hardened seat valves are strongly recommended! In the Philippines, the premium gas is supposed to be non-leaded from last year, but my "inside sources" tell me the gas companies just changed the stickers on the pumps and are still selling leaded

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SuperDave
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posted 03-06-2002 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperDave   Click Here to Email SuperDave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ditto Johnmustang

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70SportsRoof
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posted 03-06-2002 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 70SportsRoof   Click Here to Email 70SportsRoof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been dealing with the lead-nonlead thing for awhile. As you notice in my signature most of the cars I have used leaded gas when new. Lead was used as a lubrication for the valve seats and to act as a bit of a cushion. The only way it may become a problem if you have non-hardened valve seats is if you continously run your car at high rpm's for extended periods of time. That is when it can become an issue. I've never used lead substitutes in my cars since they are just used for around town driving. Unless you are jamming down the freeway at 75mph for 2 hours a day, then it won't be a prob. Don't worry about it until you need the heads rebuilt.

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beachbum
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posted 03-06-2002 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beachbum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have wondered about that myself but back before most fuel became unleaded they had Amoco white gas. It was supposed to be the best gas available back then, it was unleaded and I never heard of a problem with valves from that gas.

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quinn
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posted 03-06-2002 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinn   Click Here to Email quinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aaaahhhh. i get it =) that explains alot.
i am from georgia by the way. i wonder if adding the lead could have anything to do with my erratic carb function? sometimes the exhaust is crystal clear, sometimes really rich and smelly, and thick..hmmmmmm. thanks fellas!

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68 S-code GT
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posted 03-07-2002 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 68 S-code GT   Click Here to Email 68 S-code GT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I?ve noticed that my FB gets better mileage and runs a little smoother and cleaner with 104 octane ?Real Lead?, but I do not use it all the time$$$$$$

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johnmustang
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posted 03-07-2002 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnmustang   Click Here to Email johnmustang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 68 S-code GT:
I?ve noticed that my FB gets better mileage and runs a little smoother and cleaner with 104 octane ?Real Lead?, but I do not use it all the time$$$$$$


cheaper in the long run to just buy high grade gas.

JOHN

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