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sigtauenus
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posted 01-25-2002 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went to start me car this morning and I got a click and then nothing. No interior/head lights, no radio, nothing.

So, I figured it was the old starter solenoid because there's no way the battery died overnight, and since I keep one in stock, changed it out. Get back in the car, headlights work fine. Ok, it wasn't the battery. Turn the key, (the hood is still up), and I see a big arc at the starter solenoid, hear the same click, and then everything is dead again. I don't get it, it started up just fine last night when I came home from work.

I hate playing replace a part until it works, it gets too expensive.

Any ideas?

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V8 Thumper
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posted 01-25-2002 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for V8 Thumper   Click Here to Email V8 Thumper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bad ground. Try an abrasive disc or even sandpaper to expose fresh metal on your ground surface and cables. I've even run multiple grounds (batt.{-} to block, block to frame, at two different places) to insure against such problems. Virtually guarantees a complete circuit.

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sigtauenus
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posted 01-25-2002 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I was waiting for my ride to show up, I was fidgeting around and noticed a couple things. 1, the hot cable to the starter was slightly loose at the starter end, although the nut seemed tight. 2, when I disconnected the battery from the solenoid and reattached it, the headlights worked again. I didn't have time to check it out more yet, but hopefully you are correct that it is a bad connection.

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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-25-2002 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sam,
Also check all the connections on the stater solenoid to make sure they are clean and not corroded. Sand paper works wonders or a wire brush is better. Keep us posted.

Dave & Terri

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sigtauenus
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posted 01-28-2002 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I finally got a minute to work on it, and it turns out tightening up the starter wire fixed it. So simple this time, huh? Thought it was going to be a new starter, but it still works just fine.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-28-2002 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you clean the area that it sparked? There's probably a carbon coating there.

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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-28-2002 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sig,
Glad to hear that it was any easy fix. Same goes for our electrical problem with the fastback. Replaced the voltage regulator and cleaned up all the electrical connections. Battery charges just fine now.

Dave & Terri

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'65 Fastback Modified 289 4V, C-4, dual exhaust, styled steel wheels, rally pac, A/C
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'66 Coupe, Silver Blue Metallic, 351W 2-V, 4 speed, A/C, future sleeper.

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sigtauenus
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posted 01-28-2002 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Did you clean the area that it sparked? There's probably a carbon coating there.

Not yet, but you are correct, it was blackened and I'll probably get around to it tomorrow. Today I just wanted to be sure it wasn't going to involve money to fix it.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-29-2002 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Free fixes are the best fixes!

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'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
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sigtauenus
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posted 01-29-2002 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveLaRiviere:
Free fixes are the best fixes!


You can say that again!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-29-2002 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Free fixes are the best fixes!

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC

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sigtauenus
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posted 01-29-2002 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sigtauenus   Click Here to Email sigtauenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, I knew you would!!!!

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 01-29-2002 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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'70 Mustang Mach 1 M code 351C 4V/FMX/3.25 open
'72 Mustang Sprint Coupe 351C 4V/FMX/4.30 Trac Lok
'94 F-150 XL 5.8L/E4OD/3.55 Limited Slip
'97 Probe GTS 2.5L DOHC

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cynot65
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posted 01-30-2002 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounded so good I had to say it myself.
Free fixes are the best fixes.
Tony C*

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