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Topic: '70 Deluxe rocker moldings
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70SportsRoof
Gearhead Posts: 777
From: Phoenix, AZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-25-2002 12:31 AM
   
I have a 1970 Mustang body number 63B (Deluxe SportsRoof). Does anybody know what the rocker molding looked like for this model? The ones on the car now (which have been there 20+ years) look like the '67-'68 style. The car is supposed to have moldings as part of the package.
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Rory McNeil
Gearhead Posts: 1235
From: Surrey, B.C. Canada
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-25-2002 04:32 AM
Years ago, I had a 70 Sportsroof that had the 68 style aluminum rocker panel moldings. My car had the standard black interior, but the rocker trim MAY have been available as part of several "Decor Groups". The mouldings were about 2"`wide.This car had a few odd options, including a map light in the pass. side dash panel, above the spot for the rectangular clock.It also had a trunk light, & park brake light.------------------
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mellowyellow
Gearhead Posts: 5739
From: So. Fl.
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-25-2002 06:31 AM
The pic I'm looking at has 67/8 style. It is a 70 cv. I wonder if they would fir??
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RICKS
Gearhead Posts: 259
From: Ocala, FL
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-25-2002 12:05 PM
I've got a Q-code '70 deluxe sportroof (triple black, loaded with every single option available on Mustang in 1970, was internally ordered and delivered to the Rotunda garage as a Ford executive pool car, but we can't document exactly who it was built for)ANYWAYS, the proper rocker moldings for your car "look" like 67-68 moldings, but they are actually unique 1970 moldings, Ford part #'s D0ZZ-6510176-B and D0ZZ-6510177-B. Good luck finding an N.O.S. pair. I had never paid much attention to the moldings on my car (we bought it already restored to thoroughbred spec) but I had a guy with an R-code deluxe sportroof contact me about a year ago. Seems him and Bob Perkins had been discussing whether there was truly any difference between the 67-68 part # and the '70 part #, i.e. whether it was simply the same part in a different # package. Bob didn't have a set to look at (if HE doesn't have it, you KNOW they're hard to find), but he knew that I had a correct car so he gave the guy my number. Sure enough, there's the slightest of difference, and the guy happened to find a correct set. At the front of the molding, on the top inner edge, where the molding rests directly against the fender, the molding tapers in the leading 1 1/2 inch to accomodate the flare of the fender wheel opening on the '70 fender. If you look at a 67-68 molding, there is no taper on the inside top of the molding, it runs fairly straight all the way from end to end, because the bottom of the fender on a 67-68 does not flare appreciably enough at the wheel opening that the molding needs any relief. So it's only that taper at the very front top edge of the molding that really sets them apart, that I can see. If you were to install 67-68 moldings on your '70, I imagine your only problem would be an unsightly gap between the molding and the fender directly behind the wheel opening. Possibly you could carefully "work" this area on a 67-68 set to make them fit and look correct. Also, the '70 deluxe sportroof has ONE philips head screw 1 inch back from the front of the molding that is there in lieu of an end clip. I imagine that once Ford doctored the molding to fit in the front, that their 67-68 end clips didn't want to attach properly anymore. Rather than spend yet more money to tool-up a new clip, they simply drove a screw through the molding and called it a day. There should be a hole in your fenders (maybe covered with filler now) evidencing the original screw location. Sorry so long, just though you would want the full scoop on this since practically no one really knows the facts on 1970 deluxe moldings.
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70SportsRoof
Gearhead Posts: 777
From: Phoenix, AZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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posted 01-25-2002 01:50 PM
I'm lucky since I still have my moldings on the car. And they are the ones that Ricks describes, with the flare and hole in the front. I always thought they were just '67-'68 that for some reason Ford decided to install as part of the decor package in '70. So that brings me to another question, Anybody know how to bring them back to like new condition? Mine have 30 years of use, no dents, just road rash and littles scratches. Since I probably won't be able to find another set, unless I find a '70 Deluxe being parted, I'd like to repair mine. I'm not looking to do a Concours resto, but do want to bring the exterior back to factory look, in other words, the rocker moldings and whell well moldings stay. Anybody got any ideas on how to bring them back to life? By the way, is there any difference in value between a Deluxe versus a standard interior? Mine is body 63B, 351-2v, FMX, A/C, PS, PDB, AM/FM, Sport Deck rear seat, California Emissions.
Would this have any higher value on the market compared to a standard '70 w/ similar options minus the deluxe interior?
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RICKS
Gearhead Posts: 259
From: Ocala, FL
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 01-25-2002 03:58 PM
Certainly the deluxe is worth more than the standard, even similarly optioned. How MUCH more? I'd ballpark 15%, all other options being the same. I wouldn't fool around trying to reincarnate your wheel lip moldings back to life. They'll never look like new, and new repro wheel lip moldings are so cheap it's not worth the hours of elbow grease to clean and rub on the old sandblasted ones. Certain things aren't worth saving when you can buy new reasonably. For the rocker moldings, there are companies out there that restore and re-anodize aluminum moldings, and the finished product looks brand new. But this is not a cheap proposition. Probably around $300 for the pair. A must-do if you were restoring the car. There's no great way to bring those moldings back to life that I'm aware of. That road rash is pretty permanent. I'll let other's suggest ideas. You've got a really great optioned car!
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