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cynot65
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posted 01-08-2002 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok gang here goes....I’m talking about 2 guys in Ford history.
Both of them were directly involved in bringing 2 of the baddest muscle cars in American history into being.
Both of these guys were Ford imports coming from Pontiac and Chevrolet. In fact one of them was responsible for designing the 63 Vette and the Mako Shark I,II.
The ‘guy who said this....”You can sell a young man’s car to an old man, but you’ll never sell an old man’s car to a young man” was the guy who hired this man.... who knew that “SR-2” ,was never going to cut it as a name for a Ford muscle car.
What Mustang(s) am I referring to?
Who’s the guy who who made that statement and helped Ford build a muscle car ledgend?
Who’s the guy who named it?
See you later.
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ccode67
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posted 01-08-2002 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ccode67   Click Here to Email ccode67     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe, Bunkie Knudsen and John Delorien
Wild guess???

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Fastback68
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posted 01-08-2002 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy who made that quote was definitely Knudsen.

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cynot65
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posted 01-08-2002 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, Knudsen was the man with the quote.
Who's the other guy? and What cars are we talking about? CCode, Delorean was not the other guy
Tony C*

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posted 01-08-2002 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lawrence Shinoda.

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RICKS
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posted 01-08-2002 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RICKS   Click Here to Email RICKS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Boss"

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cynot65
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posted 01-08-2002 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, you guys got the answers quickly so here come acouple of more questions.
What Date in Ford history did the Boss 429 debut?
How many Boss 429's were made in '69? '70?
How many Boss 302's were made in '69? '70?
Let us not forget the one hit wonder the Boss 351 which debuted when? and how many were produced?
Tony C*

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DidgeyTrucker
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posted 01-08-2002 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DidgeyTrucker   Click Here to Email DidgeyTrucker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The NASCAR debut for the Boss 9 was the 1969 Atlanta 500. Cale Yarborough's Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II won that race in the debut for not only the boss 9 but also the "aero" Cyclone.

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cynot65
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posted 01-08-2002 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know when I'll get bacvk so here goes with the last questions.
The Boss 429 debuted on January 15th 1969 so Happy Birthday to all those Bosses.
There were 857 Boss 429's in '69 and 499 in '70.
The Boss 302's come in at 1,628 in '69 and 7,013 in '70.
As for the Boss 351's they debuted in Nov 1970 and there were 1,806 of them produced.

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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-08-2002 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see that I am a day late and a dollar short on todays trivia. Gee Tony. You do believe in a New York Minute, don't you. LOL Great questions Tony.

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TomP
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posted 01-09-2002 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomP   Click Here to Email TomP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there were ZERO Boss 429's made IN 1970, all the '70 cars were produced by December '69. Basically they made them for one year, split between 2 model years.

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cynot65
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posted 01-09-2002 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TomP
Tonight I will check that, I'm sure you're right but I did not see anything mentioned from the book I took that info from. Granted it is not a Ford sponsored book and thier figures and statements may be inaccurate. My info came from Mike Mueller's book "Mustang 1964 1/2 1973" Chapter 8
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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-09-2002 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Gang. The Boss 429 production figures from "Mustang by the Numbers" by Kevin Marti state:

1969 850
1970 500

But I have also come across other sources with different numbers. One states that 499 Boss 429s were built in 1969 as 1970 models.

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[This message has been edited by Dave Gibson (edited 01-09-2002).]

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Fastback68
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posted 01-09-2002 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback68   Click Here to Email Fastback68     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you guys maybe talking at cross purposes? TomP's talking calendar years, maybe Tony and Dave are talking model years?

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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-09-2002 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, we three are talking about the same thing. Kar Krafters did the modifications to the engine compartment to fit the 429 engine. Ford would assemble the body, interior and chasis. Then send it to Kar Krafters to do the rest of the car. The Boss 429s over lapped the model year. All Boos 429s were built in 1969. Remember that auto makers model years normally start in August/September/October time frame. Not January of each year. So all 1970 Boss 429s were actually built in 1969.

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cynot65
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posted 01-10-2002 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynot65   Click Here to Email cynot65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dave thanks for clearing that up. It's funny though that our production figures are slightly different. Like I said, the book I got this from was not a ford sponsored book so who know's really where that info came from.
Tony C*

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Dave Gibson
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posted 01-10-2002 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tony,
No worries. There are numerous sources in publication that all have different production figures, cost, options, etc. Another one that will drive you nuts, is all the different part numbers. Just ask Steve.

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Moneymaker
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posted 01-11-2002 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Addendum trivia: Of the two men how many are still alive and who?

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posted 01-11-2002 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry Shinoda has passed on. But the Boss Shinoda Mustang is still with us.

I'm not sure if Bunkie Knudeson is still with us or not.

Dave & Terri

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mellowyellow
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posted 01-11-2002 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mellowyellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bunkie, if alive, may still be trying to get the tar and feathers off after his unceremonious "dumping" by Ford. Not even an Elgin watch! LOL!

I don't think that Nasser got a lifetime cafeteria pass either.

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posted 01-12-2002 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moneymaker   Click Here to Email Moneymaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bunkie Knudsen is indeed alive abiet not so well. He never recovered from HF II's firing of him.

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