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infoseeker
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From: cleveland, ohio, usa
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posted 11-07-2001 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infoseeker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys i need your help. i was just given a full motor but i dont know if its a 302 or a 351w... is there anyway to tell the diffrence? like are the heads diffrent? is there a sn on the block or part number or some marking that will say that its a 302 or 351? or would i have to mic the bore and stroke to tell the diffrence. cuz if its a 351 im gonna rebuild it and put it in my capri. well any help is appreciated

-Bob w.

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-07-2001 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The easiest way I use to tell if I am looking at a 302 or a 351W, is to look at the front of the block, between the top of the timing cover & the bottom of the intake manifold end seal area. On a 351W, there are 2 angled "ribs", one on either side of the distributor. On a 302, there are no ribs. Also the 351W has a wider intake manifold than a 302, but unless you can compare the 2 side by side, its kinda tough to compare. One other thing, if you remove the distributor, the hole in the shaft that the oil pump drive rod fits into is 1/4" on a 302, & is 5/16" on a 351W. You can check this with the appropriate size allen wrench.

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67coupe
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posted 11-07-2001 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 67coupe   Click Here to Email 67coupe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also another way is the waterneck on the front if u can get a socket and extenion on the bottom bolt its a 351 if not its a 302

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Fastymz
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posted 11-07-2001 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fastymz   Click Here to Email Fastymz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the intake is off mine says 351w right between the lifters and on the heads it is stamped 351w.
Ron

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Tom351
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posted 11-07-2001 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom351   Click Here to Email Tom351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, the 351 has about an inch of block between the cylinder deck and the flange for the water pump, while the 302 has they cylinder deck almost flush with the water pump flange.

289/302:


351W:

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Dave Gibson
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posted 11-07-2001 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Gibson   Click Here to Email Dave Gibson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Infoseeker,
The easiest way that I know of is to check the firing order. The 302 firing order is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. The 351W firing order is 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-3. Hope this helps make things easy.

Dave & Terri

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franklin
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posted 11-07-2001 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for franklin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check that firing order as cast numbers on the intake manifold, and not by how the sparkplug wires are routed, a 302 cam can be put in a 351w and vise versa, making things really confusing.

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SteveLaRiviere
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posted 11-07-2001 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SteveLaRiviere   Click Here to Email SteveLaRiviere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you remember the deck height/water pump outlet hole difference, it will only take you a glance to tell them apart.

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Tom351
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posted 11-08-2001 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom351   Click Here to Email Tom351     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve is right, you can tell in about .002 seconds by looking at the deck height, also firing order can be misleading, my 351 uses a 289 firing order (since I bought the cam first thinking that I would build a 289/302)

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Rory McNeil
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posted 11-08-2001 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory McNeil   Click Here to Email Rory McNeil     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, all 5.0L HO 302`s from 82-95 used the 351 firing order.

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Thud
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posted 11-08-2001 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, I love this place! Ask any question and you get help (and illustrations!) I wish the rest of my world worked this well.

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